What is this, the card says moops?? Oh pardon me, by all means, carry on with the unprecedented genocide!
The UN is often on the right side of these things, so anyone who cares about human life, human rights, states rights, or international fraternity, would naturally align themselves to that consensus.
So you’re just… pointing out facts about international law in the thread about protesters trying to break a siege–what, for fun? I don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish.
Obviously various authorities and people are in disagreement over what is right/legal for the people of Gaza. That’s not something we’re confused about. We just by and large side with the people of Gaza.
Anyway, we all process differently, so I’m not trying to imply that you have ill intent. But that’s why people are reacting negatively to your comment. Obviously ANY authority that sides with the people of Gaza is going to be one we side with, even if US/Canada/Israel/etc does not recognise them.
So you’re just… pointing out facts about international law in the thread about protesters trying to break a siege–what, for fun? I don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish.
I was triggered at “See what UN said, we’re winning” mentality. It’s coping mechanism at best. People need to stop hoping for the UN to change things. See how European governments are slowly changing attitude after protests, not tweeting UN.
In any case, this is hopeless, I’m deleting my original comment and again regretting trying to talk some sense into people
I see. I apologize. I guess I lost that context while scrolling. I agree people shouldn’t get complacent by just pointing to some authority that on their own won’t change things.
It’s more like almost everyone agrees to something and then an authoritarian with veto power says no, which is a deep rooted problem with the UN itself
I just tried to, again, by changing people’s mentality and how you approach this problem, but, again, it’s backfiring because people don’t want to go out in the streets, but tweet at UN
Instead of being open about this, why are you seemingly coming at people who want things to finally change, instead of continuing this genocide? What have you done and what are you doing right now?
People of conscience disagree with the morality of this “blockade,” which is a nice weasel word by the way, when really what’s happening is people of Gaza are being exterminated while under total siege.
I disagree with the morality of personalized motorized transportation. Yet I don’t stand on a fucking highway and then make a surprised pikachu face when I get arrested.
This was what always was going to happen. They knew this was always going to happen. This is nothing to be surprised by, this whole action is just a publicity stunt.
Do you see how these two are not equivalent though? One is an aggressive campaign exterminate a people, that can be stopped if just slightly more political will is mustered.
Already, the tide is turning and you have even mainstream voices yapping at Israel to cease.
It’s about the logic consequence of an action, so they are equivalent.
If we go by the logic of “kills a lot of people and can be stopped quickly” then motorized transport is a lot worse. It kills a lot more people yearly and has multiple viable longterm solution that just need to be implemented.
But no, I’m not getting into that fight with you, because it’s an argument without heart meant only to sap the will of people to oppose a very real and concerted genocide.
What do you propose to stop the genocide instead of morally defensible illegal acts?
sails into military blockade with the stated purpose of running the blockade
gets intercepted
pikachu-face
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What is this, the card says moops?? Oh pardon me, by all means, carry on with the unprecedented genocide!
The UN is often on the right side of these things, so anyone who cares about human life, human rights, states rights, or international fraternity, would naturally align themselves to that consensus.
…exactly my comment. Exactly which is why I said that governments rarely align with UN (aka. guidance)
Lemmy misinterpreting things as usual.
So you’re just… pointing out facts about international law in the thread about protesters trying to break a siege–what, for fun? I don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish.
Obviously various authorities and people are in disagreement over what is right/legal for the people of Gaza. That’s not something we’re confused about. We just by and large side with the people of Gaza.
Anyway, we all process differently, so I’m not trying to imply that you have ill intent. But that’s why people are reacting negatively to your comment. Obviously ANY authority that sides with the people of Gaza is going to be one we side with, even if US/Canada/Israel/etc does not recognise them.
I was triggered at “See what UN said, we’re winning” mentality. It’s coping mechanism at best. People need to stop hoping for the UN to change things. See how European governments are slowly changing attitude after protests, not tweeting UN.
In any case, this is hopeless, I’m deleting my original comment and again regretting trying to talk some sense into people
I see. I apologize. I guess I lost that context while scrolling. I agree people shouldn’t get complacent by just pointing to some authority that on their own won’t change things.
This is like saying a judge is useless when law enforcers doesn’t apply thr ruling. UN is not useless, the country members are
It’s more like almost everyone agrees to something and then an authoritarian with veto power says no, which is a deep rooted problem with the UN itself
Is the USA authoritarian ? Does any country has veto on ICC and ICJ ruling ?
There is only one country that has threatened to arrest ICC/ICJ judges and threatened UN if they don’t do what they want.
EDIT: Actually, Israel might be the second one, but I can’t remember it from top of my head, bit I fully expect them to
Isreal I do not think has, but thats because the US will do it for them
Do you deny the genocide in Gaza?
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Why would not they just lie?
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What action did you do to support palestinians?
I just tried to, again, by changing people’s mentality and how you approach this problem, but, again, it’s backfiring because people don’t want to go out in the streets, but tweet at UN
Instead of being open about this, why are you seemingly coming at people who want things to finally change, instead of continuing this genocide? What have you done and what are you doing right now?
I reply to israeli propaganda, share videos of israeli terrorist crimes and do my part in the bds mouvement.
I also think about the after of the genocide if it ever stop which is to stop voting the parties who still support occupation
Well then, that’s definitely way more effective than re-posting what UN says. No sarcasm in case it sounded like it.
People of conscience disagree with the morality of this “blockade,” which is a nice weasel word by the way, when really what’s happening is people of Gaza are being exterminated while under total siege.
I disagree with the morality of personalized motorized transportation. Yet I don’t stand on a fucking highway and then make a surprised pikachu face when I get arrested.
This was what always was going to happen. They knew this was always going to happen. This is nothing to be surprised by, this whole action is just a publicity stunt.
Do you see how these two are not equivalent though? One is an aggressive campaign exterminate a people, that can be stopped if just slightly more political will is mustered.
Already, the tide is turning and you have even mainstream voices yapping at Israel to cease.
It’s about the logic consequence of an action, so they are equivalent.
If we go by the logic of “kills a lot of people and can be stopped quickly” then motorized transport is a lot worse. It kills a lot more people yearly and has multiple viable longterm solution that just need to be implemented.
Do fastfood next.
But no, I’m not getting into that fight with you, because it’s an argument without heart meant only to sap the will of people to oppose a very real and concerted genocide.
What do you propose to stop the genocide instead of morally defensible illegal acts?
They knew what it would happen thst doesn’t make the consewuences ok
Do you deny the genocide in Gaza?