• el_bhm@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Go to lemmygrad.ml and post about Russia or China. You will read insane ramblings about projections. Somehow the argument is always “look at this bad thing in the west, here is completely misinformed info about your country, look how good Russia/China, skip over genocides you are projecting it is happening in the West, to finish my argument Are You a Nazi?!”.

    Yougoslavia was created by soviets/russia. His beloved communists. I am super interested in what mind gymnastics he has to excuse that.

    He could have gone with Africa or Middle East, much better example of collosal fuck ups of Ze Bad West. But that would require knowledge of history longer than 50 years.

    Also crying about Poland. As a guy living in Poland, hearing stories of people that fought in WWII and people that lived in communist Poland, I am so interested in how these first hand accounts are US misinformation.

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      1 year ago

      I was banned from Lemmygrad for statements that were critical of the authority of the USSR, and writings of their savior Karl M.

      I was banned from Lemmy.world for anti-zionism. Most of the Lemmy side of the fediverse seems infested with authoritarianism that’s as bad as Reddit’s corporatism.

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        1 year ago

        My bans from lemmy.ml have all come from literally arguing that there are a solid 150 years worth of academic ideas building on Marx and that taking Marxist orthodoxy as the exclusive socialist dogma in that context is simply ignorant.

        I am starting to think that they hate revisionist socialists more than actual capitalists, because it seeks to deny them the thing they really want, which is a justification for violence and totalitarianism.

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          11 months ago

          Leftist fetishism for ideological purism is what will always lead to their demise any time they manage to get any meaningful power.

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            I liked it when we mostly focused on welfare, education, and safety regulation. Those were the things that really mattered.

            The proletariat seizing the means of reproduction and having riotous revolutionary street parties with burning vehicles and smashed windows and firing squads for the sake of ending worker alienation isn’t really something that will help anyone with anything.

            Especially if you’re just gonna top it all off by handing over power to a group of cruel hardasses when you’re done, when you’ve got your fill of raging against the city.

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        1 year ago

        Seems unlikely they’d do that, perhaps the angle you took might have triggered them. They tend to know their history and cite well, and get lied about a lot, so they’re suspicious of people who might get details wrong and probably take them for trolls.

        their savior Karl M

        Obviously I can’t fairly judge what you wrote but you are at the very least not left wing right?

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          As someone who has actually studied political science, they absolutely do not know their history well lmao. They are (shitty) Orthodox Marxists and react quite strongly to being shown anything outside of that 150 year old bubble.

          They know a few core historical anecdotes that MLs cling to. But their knowledge breaks down extremely quickly when you try to reduce political science and statecraft to academic first principles, even when those principles intersect strongly with their ML orthodoxy.

          They are campists. They form their philosophy around relitigating cold war drama more than anything to do with actual socialism.

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            What would you have them read to remedy this?

            And to take a current event as a litmus test since I don’t know you or your bias, do you condemn Israel’s racism, zionist ideology and their war crimes etc?

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              So many things. But I’d start with The Ethics of Ambiguity to temper the autocratic revolution fetish.

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                  I’m not sure why you believe I owe you a litmus test.

                  There is no right answer to the Israel situation, other than secular unification. You will not find me mounting a vocal defense of any theocracy or ethnostate.

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                    Well, you’re not claiming to the arbiter of truth here are you? Hence you have a bias, and as a layman I’d benefit from knowing it.

                    I appreciate the answer regardless.