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    I mean this would only have applied to salaried employees earning $20/hr or less which I can’t even imagine what type of field that covers since most hourly jobs earn more than that these days.

    This is akin to the “pardoning marijuana possession convictions” thing where it didn’t apply to a single person in federal custody and only benefitted 3,000 people (with past convictions) in the entire nation.

    This is basically virtue signaling and/or table scraps for us peasants.

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      But you don’t actually know how many people this would have applied to… you just assume, right?

      Edit: It’s right in the article: “The rule would have extended to approximately four million American workers, guaranteeing them overtime pay.”

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      And a judge even blocked that. What do we think would happen to more substantial changes?

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            I’d much rather they fight some Texas federal judge over something meaningful than squander the political capital on something that benefits a tiny niche of the country and gets blocked anyway.

            Just about the only meaningful thing we’ve seen over the last three Democratic presidential terms was the ACA and they decided to model that after a Republican healthcare plan rather than giving us the logical choice of single-payer in order to appease Republicans who voted against it anyway.

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                “Here’s what it has achieved”

                A list of money given to farmers, shipping companies, automakers, coal towns, energy companies, and anyone else responsible for all the pollution we currently face. It seems like they’re being rewarded for their misdeeds.

                Meanwhile oil and natural gas production is booming in the US to record rates: https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/wells/

                This is exactly the type of shit that I’m talking about. It’s just a bunch of virtue signaling while they funnel our tax dollars to wealthy corporations to be squandered away. You couldn’t actually point to anything specific that came out of this because it’s just a list of money doled out for abstract ‘causes.’ Even the author could only point to two specific examples, $120k to Eugene, OR to train people on brush removal after our wildfires and $118k for air monitoring equipment in a West Virginia town and that’s two years after handing out nearly $400 billion. This reminds me of all the times Democratic presidents have given hundreds of billions of dollars to companies like Comcast and Spectrum for jack shit.

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      Not sure why you would expect the federal government to be able to do anything with state charges.

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        I never said I did? I said that it’s virtue signaling and performative at best rather than something that’s actually impactful on the average person’s life.

        Democrats love to talk about how much they care for the working class, but their actual actions rarely reflect that.

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          So … they shouldn’t have pardoned federal cannabis possession convictions?

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              This is akin to the “pardoning marijuana possession convictions” thing where it didn’t apply to a single person in federal custody and only benefitted 3,000 people (with past convictions) in the entire nation.

              This is basically virtue signaling and/or table scraps for us peasants.

              The only thing the federal government can do is pardon federal crimes. That is what they did. You’ve called that action “virtue signalling and/or table scraps.”

              It’s unclear whether you A) think that federal cannabis possession convictions shouldn’t have been pardoned (considering your displeasure with the fact that they were), or B) think that such convictions should have been pardoned (as they were), but also don’t like that.

              Since B) is not internally consistent - you would need to not like something you think should happen - it’s not unreasonable to ask if you think that such convictions shouldn’t be pardoned. Frankly, neither position is easy to logically square, and you’ve done nothing to assist in that endeavor.

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                How about you learn about context and read the rest of what I wrote? My complaint with both of these actions is that they’re essentially meaningless for the majority of people and they don’t go far enough. I refer to them as table scraps and virtue signaling because they only give the appearance of taking action without actually fixing anything or improving the lives of nearly anyone. The politicians get to parade around acting like they’re working for our benefit when they’re actually doing very little to help.

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                  So whether or not federal cannabis convictions were pardoned, or millions of people would have guarantees to overtime pay, you would have complained either way, probably about Democrats, because the actions taken weren’t perfect solutions, or if they weren’t taken, then “Democrats have done nothing!”

                  Got it.

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                    There you go with another strawman… 🙄

                    I call BS on millions of people getting overtime pay. The income limit is so ridiculously low that nobody would be eligible. You can fuck right off with your “because it’s not perfect” false dichotomy. It’s not that it’s not perfect, it’s that it’s quite literally nothing.

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      If only this logic actually applied. Maybe they wouldn’t make anti-trans laws in that shithole state?