• Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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    Let’s see here, RFK wants to ban vaccines and promote raw milk.
    There is currently a bird flu epidemic in dairy cattle from bird droppings getting into the feed.
    Consuming raw milk is one of the few ways humans can become infected with bird flu.
    I’m sure this will be fine and the virus won’t mutate to allow for human to human transfer, it if it does luckily it only has a 56% mortality rate compared to the Covid morality rate of ~4% during its peak.

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        [preface and disclaimer: I’m remembering off the top of my head something I read over 30 years ago, details may not be exactly correct]

        Not sure whether you remember the chapter of Sideways Stories from Wayside School, by Louis Sachar, in which there was a student who nobody liked, who was a real asshole and wore a stinky raincoat. The kids kept trying to take off his raincoat, but underneath was another, stinkier raincoat, just layers and layers of progressively stinky raincoats, and with every raincoat removed, the kid just became a bigger asshole and his laugh louder and more high-pitched.

        At the very end, he turned out to be a dead rat in a pile of stinky raincoats.

        That’s what the whole administration is shaping up to be. Except we knew this was coming and allowed it to happen, so I guess that, ultimately, we are the dead rat.

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        The plot twist is that the worm in his brain didnt die, its pulling the strings to keep him going and further the global parasite agenda

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      In the US, right now, the dairy farms where they let the cats drink raw milk saw half their cats die.

      This is an actual thing.

      Edit based on comments below: The context of this thread is concerning hi path AI. I should have been more clear. I am referring to dairy farms where the cows have hi path AI and the cats drink raw milk.

      However it is impossible to tell if your raw milk is infected with hi path AI, so to the readers of this who are really in to drinking raw milk, I wish you luck.

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        You’re sort of right ( based on the article I think you read about) The cats drank bird flu contaminated raw milk which led to them dying. For that reason, raw milk is dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk wouldn’t be as dangerous. have reduced the chances of the bird flu, and other illnesses, from people that drink it. https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/concerning-spread-of-bird-flu-from-cows-to-cats-suspected-in-texas/

        *Edited

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          I am more than a little confused.

          According to your article

          By March 20, over half of the farm’s 24 or so cats died from the flu.

          That is pretty much exactly what I said

          I learned about this at a CBRNE conference from people familiar with the situation.

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            Yeah, that’s exactly what you said. He also said raw milk is dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk is safer for humans (??). I think he’s drunk or just very dumb. Either way, just ignore him.

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            Sure I’ll clarify. The implication from your statement is that raw milk can kill half of cats very frequently, which is seemingly untrue. What seems to be the situation is that raw milk from cows infected with the bird flu can lead to a 50% fatality rate for cats that drink it. So if cats consume raw milk, will there be a near 50% fatality rate? Not necessarily, but it seems like that would be the case if the cows in question are infected with the bird flu (based on articles).

            The reason why I want to differentiate between what you said, and the article is I can imagine someone saying: “nearly half of cats die drinking raw milk!” to which a skeptic may find online people talking about cats not dying at such a high rate from drinking raw milk, leaving out the fact that the bird flu infected cows is the issue. This can dissuade skeptics from believing the reality that raw milk increases the chances of illness from the bird flu, as well as other sicknesses.

            If I’m wrong about the fact that nearly 50% of cats are dying, all the time, from raw milk, feel free to provide an article so i can educate myself.

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              Thanks. The context of this thread is concerning hi path AI. I should have been more clear. I am referring to dairy farms where the cows have hi path AI and the cats drink raw milk.

              However it is impossible to tell if your raw milk is infected with hi path AI, so to the readers of this who are really in to drinking raw milk, I wish you luck.

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        True, but on the minus side, dumb people actively seeking out the infected milk would artificially increase the instances and thus the spread.

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          But on the plus side, dumb people actively infect themselves and get removed from the gene pool.

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            But on the minus side, other people don’t have the choice to completely avoid those dumb people and thus minimize their risk of infection.

            If they did, covid wouldn’t have been a tenth as bad as it was/is.

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          True, but on the minus side, dumb people actively seeking out the infected milk would artificially increase the instances and thus the spread.

          I’m sorry I only see benefits here.

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            That’s because you’re overlooking the fact that stupid people mingle with other people whether they want to or not.

            If you don’t have at least a handful of truly idiotic coworkers and neighbors, you’re probably a self-employed hermit…

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                You still interact with other people in person, and one or more of them interacts with the public.

                If you learned nothing else from CoViD-19 I would hope you at least learned that you are only a couple degrees of separation from a hotbed of infection at most.

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          I don’t care. Do you?

          They voted for this, they can deal with the consequences.

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            Normally I’d say that I don’t want this to happen to a bunch of people who don’t deserve it, but drinking raw milk is preventable and not contagious, and therefore entirely self-contained, right? So yeah, sow those seeds, guys, I’m totally owned.

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      You might misunderstand. The bird droppings did not accidentally get into the cow feed. Humans put it there intentionally to save money. Just search for “poultry litter” or “broiler litter” and “cattle feed” if you don’t believe me. The people who came up with this idea are actually proud of it.