• harmsy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    2 months ago

    Point the rest of us to where anyone in this thread said that Trump’s actions started the Israel conflict rather than just escalating what was already going on.

    • circuscritic@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Maybe you are under informed. The Abraham Accords and the moving of the US embassy were escalations in this conflict.

      It’s like three or four comments up, did you even look?

      Or does your extensive knowledge of Middle Eastern history not extend back that far?

      In case you’re still confused, both of those actions were taken by the Trump administration, and it was the sole content of that comment.

      • harmsy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Bruh. You seem to have not read my comment or the one you just quoted. The quote is not claiming that Trump started the conflict. That quote is stating that he escalated it. Try again, but make sure you look up the difference between “start” and “escalate” before you do.

          • harmsy@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 months ago

            I just looked it over again, and it looks like I just walked into a big comment minefield here. Your first comment in the thread is a bit of a mess, someone took it the wrong way and replied to what they thought you were saying, and then you took that the wrong way and replied to what you thought they were saying, and the whole thing spiraled until a certain commenter with attention problems (me) skimmed over the whole thing and assumed you were just a trumpet being defensive.

      • zbyte64@awful.systems
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        2 months ago

        I wrote:

        Maybe you are under informed. The Abraham Accords and the moving of the US embassy were escalations in this conflict.

        Are you seriously claiming I said Trump started the conflict?

        • circuscritic@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          2 months ago

          Do you not understand that you cited only two events, and both of them occurred during the Trump administration…?

          I’m actually at a loss for words, because if you don’t grasp how your comment is explicitly stating Trump is to blame, I don’t know what else to tell you.

          • zbyte64@awful.systems
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            Such a standard would require every response to include a whole historical account.

            • circuscritic@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              2 months ago

              No… what are you talking about?

              You said the escalatory actions were the Abraham accords, and moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

              I just pointed those were both actions taken by the Trump administration.

              So what requires a historical account? Do you mean you just want to site random historical events with no context, and if anyone points out when they happened, that’s somehow a bad faith argument, or an unfair standard to apply…?

              Oh my God… Did you really just read those “trigger events” in some article, have no idea what they actually were, or when they happened, but still decided to cite them in support of your argument…?