When Israeli soldiers arrived at the modest house along an alleyway in Nur Shams camp on Wednesday night, they sent the women and four of the children out into the street, but kept hold of Malak Shihab.

They took the muzzle off their dog and it went straight up to the slight 10-year-old girl and sniffed her. Terrified, she pleaded to be with her mother, but the soldiers seemed to have just one phrase in accented Arabic: “Open the doors.”

The platoon pushed her up to each of the doors in her aunt’s house, according to Malak’s account, while they remained braced behind her ready to fire at whoever might be inside. One door wouldn’t open, and in her desperation to obey, the girl remembers hammering on it with her head.

The door was finally forced open with a rifle butt which left a hole above the handle, but there was no one on the other side and the soldiers moved on.

The IDF rejected the allegations of the Shihab family.

“Such events are inconsistent with the IDF’s code of conduct, and according to a preliminary inquiry this story is fabricated and did not occur,” a spokesperson said.

  • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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    You don’t know what carpet bombing is, obviously. 50,000 is a tiny amount civilian deaths. A million people is a lot of deaths. Five million. Ten. Twenty. Get your head out of the sand. 50,000 is a small town worth of people. It will barely remembered as a footnote in history and it’s truly delusional to think otherwise.

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      You don’t know what carpet bombing is, obviously. 50,000 is a tiny amount civilian deaths.

      50,000 is a little under a third of those killed in Hiroshima, and more than half of those killed in Nagasaki. It’s twice the amount killed in the WWII bombing of Dresden.

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      So 1300~ dead is a drop in the bucket and clearly not worth all this fuss.

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          ‘Defending’ democracy by denying a people the right to self determination and government, keeping them in the worlds largest concentration camp and killing Palestinians so you can steal their land.

          Sucks you don’t see it.

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            Gaza put Hamas in charge. Gaza keeps Hamas in charge.

            “Their land” that was stolen from Jews by Ottomans.

            In your view, does the free world keep North Korea in a concentration camp as well, or did it isolate itself by being a belligerent neighbor?

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              “Their land” that was stolen from Jews by Ottomans.

              Wow these goalposts just keep moving. Every time someone challenges you on one argument you don’t acknowledge it and just slide over to a different one.

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                You’re quoting one of three of my direct replies to three arguments that I did not raise. Wtf are you saying I’m moving goalposts? This isn’t football. I’m not trying to dunk on anyone. This is complex stuff.

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      You don’t know what carpet bombing is, obviously. 50,000 is a tiny amount civilian death

      Would you like to guess at the civilian casualty numbers for a few incidents of British terror bombing over German cities in WW2? Terror bombing that was, quite explicitly, meant to blanket civilian areas with ordinance indiscriminately?

      I don’t think you know what carpet bombing casualty figures look like.

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      Ah yes, there’s not that many of them so killing them doesn’t matter. Great take. That’s not making you look like a Hugo Boss runway model at all …

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        JustZ pretty much exclusively simps for Israel. Either they get a kick out of arguing with strangers, or else they just really, really don’t have anything better to do with their time. Don’t waste your energy.

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      I wonder if your whole family gets wiped out in one of those bombings, if you were on the other side if you will still think that 50 K is a drop in the bucket. You know even one death of a civilian is one too many. Plus Israel destroyed a big chunk of the infrastructure of Gaza. They are acting with utter impunity and have complete disregard of civilian casualties because of people like you.

      And they are using 100 - 200 hostages as an excuse to continue doing so. And now tell me how many civilians did IDF killed? You know in wars you have a principle of proportionality:

      The principle of proportionality prohibits attacks against military objectives which are “expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated”.

      http://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/proportionality#:~:text=The principle of proportionality prohibits,and direct military advantage anticipated”.

      If I am not wrong the IDF broke this principle many times while claiming that your army is the most moral is a bit hypothetical.