Ah okey ^^ but that’s my point. The revolution abolished the then existing classes but now the party has cemented into the now ruling class. They enjoy the privileges and aggregate all the power to themselves where the now again born under class can’t do anything. I understand what you mean but I think we have to see Cuba for the state its in, not the promise of what it would become.
im sorry, but you have been propagandized. the things you said are nothing but mere repetitions of cia lies about cuba, parroted since the 60s. please try learning about the actual conditions in cuba before and after the revolution before giving any statements.
Well I’m not going to travel to Cuba for the sake of an internet discussion xD
But it is true that political opposition is forbidden and the only allowed party is the communist, right?
opposition to progressive ideas must necessarily be reactionary. the liberal multy party system is a scam and was rightfully replaced by the democratic centralism of the communist party. all decisions are made by the workers through democratic processes.
But how democratic is the process really if there’s no platform to voice different opinions (not saying that once a decision is reach not everyone should adhere it) and to form an independent opinion?
It’s agree with us or else.
I can’t say I know how many of the Cubans are party members but I guess it’s not a majority of the population? And that’s what I mean when I say that the political power is aggregated to the party. Even if there was a free debate inside the party they still don’t allow competition for the power, just like the income or wealth limitations functioned to keep the proletariat away from power in the early days of democracy.
Different opinions can be voiced in the party itself, democratic centralism is summarized as “diversity in opinions, unity in actions” ideas can be freely discussed, debated, voted, compromised on, etc but once the party reach a democratic consensus the party as a whole must go through with the decision unless the party as a whole change it’s mind democratically.
Well I’m not going to travel to Cuba for the sake of an internet discussion
You don’t need to, it’s very easy to find documentation on the subject for free online if you are just willing to actually learn about it.
But it is true that political opposition is forbidden and the only allowed party is the communist, right?
No it’s not, not only are other parties and independent candidates allowed, but the communist party isn’t allowed to present their candidates to the elections because candidates to the elections are not nominated by their party but by the peoples of their community, the communist party do end up having their members picked for the elections because the party is overwhelmingly popular but there is nothing to guaranty that any of them will get in.
cuba is literally the most egalitarian nation in the americas. what are you talking about?
How do you mean it is egalitarian?
in the sense of the abolishment of class oppression
Ah okey ^^ but that’s my point. The revolution abolished the then existing classes but now the party has cemented into the now ruling class. They enjoy the privileges and aggregate all the power to themselves where the now again born under class can’t do anything. I understand what you mean but I think we have to see Cuba for the state its in, not the promise of what it would become.
im sorry, but you have been propagandized. the things you said are nothing but mere repetitions of cia lies about cuba, parroted since the 60s. please try learning about the actual conditions in cuba before and after the revolution before giving any statements.
no investigation no right to speak
Well I’m not going to travel to Cuba for the sake of an internet discussion xD But it is true that political opposition is forbidden and the only allowed party is the communist, right?
opposition to progressive ideas must necessarily be reactionary. the liberal multy party system is a scam and was rightfully replaced by the democratic centralism of the communist party. all decisions are made by the workers through democratic processes.
But how democratic is the process really if there’s no platform to voice different opinions (not saying that once a decision is reach not everyone should adhere it) and to form an independent opinion? It’s agree with us or else.
I can’t say I know how many of the Cubans are party members but I guess it’s not a majority of the population? And that’s what I mean when I say that the political power is aggregated to the party. Even if there was a free debate inside the party they still don’t allow competition for the power, just like the income or wealth limitations functioned to keep the proletariat away from power in the early days of democracy.
Different opinions can be voiced in the party itself, democratic centralism is summarized as “diversity in opinions, unity in actions” ideas can be freely discussed, debated, voted, compromised on, etc but once the party reach a democratic consensus the party as a whole must go through with the decision unless the party as a whole change it’s mind democratically.
You don’t need to, it’s very easy to find documentation on the subject for free online if you are just willing to actually learn about it.
No it’s not, not only are other parties and independent candidates allowed, but the communist party isn’t allowed to present their candidates to the elections because candidates to the elections are not nominated by their party but by the peoples of their community, the communist party do end up having their members picked for the elections because the party is overwhelmingly popular but there is nothing to guaranty that any of them will get in.