I’ve been trying Tumbleweed for my gaming needs and so far it seems to be working relatively well. My issue is about removed packages. When I first installed TW, I removed quite a few packages I did not want (KSudoku, LibreOffice, and a few others). It has been a little since I’ve turned on my PC but yesterday I noticed that KSudoku, LibreOffice, and really all other apps I thought I had uninstalled (sudo zypper remove <package-name>) were back on my desktop. I thought “maybe I forgot to uninstalled them in the first place” so I went through and removed all the unwanted stuff again. Since it had been awhile I updated my OS right after uninstalling those packages. After the update (sudo zypper up), I rebooted and immediately noticed that all those packages I had just removed were back (AGAIN). So WTF… am I not removing those unwanted packages “properly”? Why do they keep coming back after updates? How can I prevent this?
Patterns almost made me skip opensuse, until I locked most of them so they won’t annoy me anymore. I start with only selecting some basic patterns in the installer:
apparmor base documentation enhanced_base minimal_base sw_management x86_64_v3When installed, I run this in my fresh system:
# save the currently installed patterns in a variable installedPatterns=$(zypper se --type pattern --installed-only | grep -E "(.*\|){3}" | cut -d'|' -f2 | tail -n+2) # lock every existing pattern sudo zypper addlock --type pattern $(zypper search --type pattern | grep -E "(.*\|){3}" | cut -d'|' -f2 | tail -n+2) # lock every package starting with "yast" sudo zypper addlock yast* # unlock the patterns you had installed sudo zypper removelock --type pattern $installedPatternsPro:
- Only real dependencies get installed when adding packages
- Nothing re-installs because it belongs to an installed pattern
- No need for
--no-recommends
Con:
- You have to find out the packages you need yourself
For a minimal gnome install, use these packages (likely some more depending on you setup):
avahi evince flatpak fwupd gedit gnome-calculator gnome-disk-utility gnome-keyring gnome-session-wayland gnome-system-monitor gnome-terminal gnome-tweaks gnome-user-share gparted gtk2-metatheme-arc gtk3-metatheme-arc gtk4-metatheme-arc libqt5-qtwayland loupe MozillaFirefox MozillaFirefox-translations-common pipewire-pulseaudio qt6-wayland sane-airscan simple-scan tpm2.0-tools wireplumber-audio xdg-user-dirs xdg-user-dirs-gtkBonus tip: When removing software, use the -u flag for less bloat being left behind:
-u, --clean-deps Automatically remove dependencies which become unneeded after removal of requested packages.