• Atin@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Good, the only way for the Palestinian people to prosper is for them to get rid of Hamas completely.

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      The Netanyahu government has spent decades legitimizing Hamas, preferring a Palestinian leadership that helps them justify their ethnic cleansing efforts instead of one that’s peaceful and wants to negotiate, e.g. the Palestinian Authority.

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        2 days ago

        What the palestinian authority do to pressure israel to not expand illegal settlements?

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      Hamas wouldn’t be needed if Israel didn’t want to violently remove every person in Gaza.

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        They’re still not needed. Unless you think Oct 7th saved Gazan lives. Or that future attacks on the IDF will save any Gazan lives.

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          Ir definitely hurt Israel on the international stage. Whether you think it’s worth it aside, unless something really big changes the only way Palestinians will get their freedom is by forcing Israel to display their genocide as obviously as possible until they get the South Africa treatment. Peaceful resistance of settler colonialism simply doesn’t and has never worked.

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            I appreciate the sentiment, but somebody should’ve pointed out to them how many genocides we’ve stopped vs how many we’ve allowed to happen over the past half century.

            I don’t think Oct 7th was about Palestinian freedom, at any rate. I don’t think hamas leaders living in the UAE give a rats ass about the survival of Gazan citizens. They’re just another tool to be taken advantage of. If hamas was really interested in Palestinian freedom, they would have granted elections in the region they controlled.

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              I appreciate the sentiment, but somebody should’ve pointed out to them how many genocides we’ve stopped vs how many we’ve allowed to happen over the past half century.

              I’m not sure I get the point. Who’s “we” and what did they do?

              If hamas was really interested in Palestinian freedom, they would have granted elections in the region they controlled.

              Hamas definitely wants power, that’s for sure. I’m not saying they’re a good government. But Palestinian freedom from Palestinians and Palestinian freedom from Israel are two completely different things. Hamas is definitely authoritarian, but they also genuinely want freedom for Palestine. Their actions over the past 20 years can only point to that conclusion.

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      What Palestinian people? You mean the refugees who will have no homeland once Israel annexes it all?

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      No, it’s when israel stop colonizing the west bank and lift all it’a control on gaza