If the west stopped supporting Ukraine, Ukraine would continue to fight for some time still.
The war would be over immediately.
And after a capitulation there would likely ne purges killing still more Ukrainians.
There wouldn’t.
So no, Ukraine could not end the killings tomorrow. Putin could. He chooses not to. He chooses the death of millions of Russians and Ukrainians. Because he truly does not care.
Yes it could, but you will never accept the reality so the war will keep going and people will keep dying. The blood is on the hands of war mongers such as yourself. People like you are what makes this war possible.
Again, Putin is the only one who can guatanteed end this. You ignore that.
I’ve addressed this repeatedly, and you’re the one ignoring what you’re being told because it doesn’t fit with your narrative.
The west abandoning Ukraine in no way guarantees that Russia stops killing Ukrainians, or Ukrainians stop killing Russians.
Ensuring that more Ukrainians die without changing the outcome of the war is not helping Ukrainians.
The only person who can end this within a day, Putin, chooses not to, and instead chooses the deaths of millions.
You keep repeating this, but it’s a blatantly false statement as we both know.
You keep mentioning how the west could end this, but are completely silent about the fact that so could Putin, and with much less bloodshed.
Both Russia and the west have exact same power to stop the war immediately. Russia has repeatedly made proposals to stop the war that the west rejected. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this shows that you’re not arguing in good faith.
You are contradicting yourself. Can russia stop the war immediately, or do they need the permission of the west to do so? Both can’t be true simultaneously
I’m not contradicting myself. The west can stop the war immediately, and Ukraine needs permission from the west to do so. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia where NATO is using Ukraine to do the fighting.
Here’s the chief of NATO openly admitting why the war started, but you keep on lying here if that makes you feel better.
The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn’t sign that.
The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.
So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite.
You are claiming that the war is between Russia and Ukraine, while the reality, as Stoltenberg admits is that it’s a war between Russia and NATO. Ukraine is the party that needs permission from the west to stop the war.
Again, can Russia end the war immediately, ss you claimed, or do they need permission from the west, like you also claimed?
Can you explain to me why Russia would stop the war that Russia is currently winning?
The war would be over immediately.
There wouldn’t.
Yes it could, but you will never accept the reality so the war will keep going and people will keep dying. The blood is on the hands of war mongers such as yourself. People like you are what makes this war possible.
Again, Putin is the only one who can guatanteed end this. You ignore that.
The west abandoning Ukraine in no way guarantees that Russia stops killing Ukrainians, or Ukrainians stop killing Russians.
Is it likely that Ukraine capitulates without Western support? Yes. Is it likely to happen the next day? No. Id it guaranteed to happen at all? No.
Is it likely that Russia stops killing Ukrainians? Yes. Is it likely to stop the next day? No.
The only person who can end this within a day, Putin, chooses not to, and instead chooses the deaths of millions.
You keep mentioning how the west could end this, but are completely silent about the fact that so could Putin, and with much less bloodshed.
I’ve addressed this repeatedly, and you’re the one ignoring what you’re being told because it doesn’t fit with your narrative.
Ensuring that more Ukrainians die without changing the outcome of the war is not helping Ukrainians.
You keep repeating this, but it’s a blatantly false statement as we both know.
Both Russia and the west have exact same power to stop the war immediately. Russia has repeatedly made proposals to stop the war that the west rejected. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this shows that you’re not arguing in good faith.
You are contradicting yourself. Can russia stop the war immediately, or do they need the permission of the west to do so? Both can’t be true simultaneously
I’m not contradicting myself. The west can stop the war immediately, and Ukraine needs permission from the west to do so. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia where NATO is using Ukraine to do the fighting.
I asked about Russia, not Ukraine.
Can Russia end the war immediately, or does Russia need the permission of the west to do so?
Here’s the chief of NATO openly admitting why the war started, but you keep on lying here if that makes you feel better.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm
That has literally nothing to do with what I just wrote? I said nothing about the reason for the war.
Again, can Russia end the war immediately, ss you claimed, or do they need permission from the west, like you also claimed?
You are claiming that the war is between Russia and Ukraine, while the reality, as Stoltenberg admits is that it’s a war between Russia and NATO. Ukraine is the party that needs permission from the west to stop the war.
Can you explain to me why Russia would stop the war that Russia is currently winning?