• kescusay@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    My son is trans. Please vote for Joe Biden so he can have the protections he needs and I don’t have to stay up at night worrying about him.

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    If Joe Biden hasn’t done anything, then why does Trump have so many things to revoke and reverse?

    Feel like almost every day there’s a headline about something new that Trump promised to reverse (for the worse).

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      Not saying Biden has done nothing, but if you haven’t noticed yet, the GOP standard play is to take the most lukewarm democrat positions, pretend it’s the end of western civilization, and then promise things will be fixed once he’s elected.

      Ie, CRT, Wokeness, DEI, whatever “monster of the week” they pick as an enemy. They always swap it around.

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    Here we go again and again on this repeat episode of Hold Your Nose And Vote For Joe Where as Joe is enacting and upholding protections for the LGBTQ community, Trump is only too happy to repeal that shit so fast. Not only that, but big boi Trump also has alluded to glassing Iran, which is way further than Biden has escalated towards. Biden is sadly, our current cold comfort here. We’re stuck between a rock and a slightly more malleable corrupt WW3 causing dipshit rock

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      3 months ago

      The more people vote for the left, the further left their position will become. It’s a well established component of political theory called the Overton window.

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        The problem is that there isn’t a left to vote for, you either vote for right or far-right. That’s why the ratchet effect exists, both parties are right wing, just separated in how extreme they are, with the Reps being overt fascists.

        Actual leftist change is not going to come from voting for liberals. Absolutely vote for Biden if you wish, this isn’t an argument against voting for him. However, if you think voting for a right winger will shift the overton window to the left, you don’t understand the nuances of the overton window.

        Actual leftist change comes from direct action and organizing. Strikes, mutual aid, canvassing, raising class awareness, spreading leftist theory, protesting, actual outside pressure is what changes the overton window.

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          If there’s a spectrum between left and right, then there’s a point on that spectrum in the center of how the populace feels. If you have two major parties they will naturally arrange themselves immediately to the left and the right of that point. They have to in order to gather up as many undecideds as possible - they will naturally win everyone further left or further right who is not an idiot.

          Voting moves this center point along the spectrum. The ratchet effect pulls to the right only because that’s the trajectory over the last few decades. If the trajectory was to the left in recent decades the inverse would be true.

          Direct action and organising might also move the center point along the spectrum, but not as much as voting, and only if voting reflects the results of direct action.

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            3 months ago

            None of that is actual analysis, it’s all vibes-based. The parties will serve those that fund them.

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              Actually it’s well established and well understood political science, ironically you’re just rejecting it as “vibes-based” because you don’t like the vibe.

              Yes political donations are a problem, but the inescapable fact is, the more people that vote for the dems, the more they will move to the left.

              Sadly, your position is precisely that which conservative proponents would have you adopt. Well done.

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                No, the Dems will never become Socialist, as they would lose funding and thus power. It takes a lot to run a party, after all.

                Leftist change has always happened thanks to outside pressure.

                I’m not telling you not to vote, I’m telling you voting will never be enough.

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                  Well… it’s true that the dems “will never become socialist” due to voting but it’s also true that America will never become socialist due to activism.

                  Socialism to any meaningful extent is not achievable in the foreseeable.

                  Voting is the most efficacious method by which to effect meaningful change.

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          The problem is that there isn’t a left to vote for

          In the current American political spectrum, there isn’t really anything that most other countries would recognize as “left”.

          But given the current binary reality, whatever the Democrats are is viewed as left of the GOP rightwingnuts.

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            Please reread my comment. The Democrats are less right wing than the Republicans, yes, but voting for them signals more liberalism, not more leftism.

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    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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      First they helped fund a literal genocide, and I did not speak out—

      Because it wasn’t my realtives being killed by US bombs and I was afraid that standing up and doing the right thing would have costs for me personally.

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      I just had a disagreement with someone on Lemmy a couple days ago who said Biden did nothing for the LGBTQ+ community. Maybe we just need more Trump headlines to educate people? Y’know, since they don’t read headlines about Biden

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        Biden did a lot of good shit. People saying he’s the same or even worse than Trump have completely lost the plot or are just RuZZian bots / useful idiots parroting RuZZian propaganda.

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          He certainly has passed a lot of pork and convinced low information voters that it’s something to celebrate, yeah.

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              I can translate you you need: the legislation that he passed has nice names but in reality each bill is filled with spending for corporations and special interests (colloquially known as ‘pork barrel spending’).

              For example his climate change bill has subsidies and payouts for the coal industry, his CHIPs Act had no oversight or specification about how the money should be spent etc. Biden has approved more oil and drilling contracts than even Trump.

              Many Democratic voters get their information from big corporate media outlets, who have a vested interest in protecting corporate interests themselves. These voters end up recieving very little factual information to base their decisions on, and instead end up thinking Biden has “Done a lot of good” because they were given a vague feeling that he has by the corporate media.

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                You are clearly not well informed. Are you not American?

                Presidents don’t make legislation. They don’t introduce bills and except in unusual circumstances are expected to sign them. They can’t modify them.

                Secondly, your claims that there is a bill that subsidizes the coal industry is without a source. Please provide a reference to this bill as “climate change bill” is to vague for me to know which you mean.

                Thirdly, your claim that the CHIPs Act has no oversight is incorrect. Here’s a helpful quote from a helpful FAQ provided by the Congressional Research Service:

                Congress may wish to exercise its oversight authority with respect to implementation of the programs and policies in the act and their effectiveness in addressing U.S. economic and national security concerns. Among other potential oversight issues: the allocation of incentive funding among various types of chip manufacturing (e.g., logic chips and memory chips, mature chips and leading-edge chips); the adequacy of funding to meet the act’s objectives; and the effectiveness of guardrails established in the act to prevent the use of incentive funding from enabling further investments in countries of concern or from being used for stock buybacks or dividends.

                My suggestion, for future reference, is that if you are going to make claims you source them. They will be much more forceful and factual and you won’t sound like you have vague feelings about something.

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                  The president does have the ability to block legislation, it’s why you often hear it referred to the president signing various items into law.

                  My suggestion, for future reference, is that if you are going to make claims you source them. They will be much more forceful and factual and you won’t sound like you have vague feelings about something.