• Axolotl@feddit.it
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    23 hours ago

    I wonder when French took the wrong path, because it seems unexplainable to me how we end up from Latin’s “aqua” to French’s “eau”

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      22 hours ago

      One plausible etymology is:

      aqua > agua > egua > ewa > ewe > eawe > eaw > eau > o

      So first the k sound changed to a g, then the initial a became an e, which lengthened to a diphthong, the final sound disappeared, the new final sound turned from a consonant into a vowel (like an oo) and the resulting triphthong reduced to a monophthong.

      The elision of medial g is pretty surprising to me though.

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        22 hours ago

        Are you sure that the Q is supposed to be read like a K? It does not seem to be the case in other neo-latin languages such as Italian and IIRC Spanish

        Edit: i searched and it seems that the sound of Q could’ve been /kʷ/ which makes sense

        i am not a latin expert– i barelly know it in fact, btw

        • FishFace@piefed.social
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          22 hours ago

          Yes, Latin qu was pronounced /kʷ/, which became straight /kw/ in English. I don’t know which it was in Old French. Italian does have qu which is pronounced /kw/.

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              3 hours ago

              Sorry bud, but in German it usually (though not always ill grant you) is pronounced /kv/ :) quark, quasseln, usw

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                1 hour ago

                Oh dang you’re right, read your comment too quickly and mixed up v and w, lol

                What’s the difference between /kʷ/ and /kw/ though? Never seen that first notation

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                  1 hour ago

                  The former is a labialised consonant, so the lips are brought close together, like to pronounce a /w/, but while saying a k. The general term is “secondary articulation”. I think the most famous of these, at least in European languages, is palatalisation.

          • Axolotl@feddit.it
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            19 hours ago

            Italian does have qu which is pronounced /kw/.

            I can confirm this as native speaker :3