• diablicja@lemmy.zip
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    11 hours ago

    If we all suffer, it’s bad. Even if you want the US to suffer, which is understandable, it’s still bad if the rest of the world suffers too.

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      10 hours ago

      If we all suffer, it’s bad.

      Truly, but Trump is not going to stop. His regime has already identified their next targets: Cuba, Panama, Greenland, Canada… We are all going to suffer - but when and how much? Outside of MAGA and Israel, nobody wanted this shit but it still happened. If the closure of the straits leads to the end of Trump’s plans, it’s still ‘good for the rest of the world’ in that it is preferable to a Trump win.

      Edit: paragraph break.

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        I am not so sure. He doesn’t have the juice to do the rest of his nationalistic military bullshit because of this conflict, which won’t end. This is forever war, hotter or colder, Israel won’t let it die, they will keep it going for domestic political reasons. And they have video of our politicians and business leaders fucking children, so the US is their bitch.

        They can sanction and such, I don’t think they will have the support for much else.

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          7 hours ago

          I hope you’re right. Plus Trump was no genius before dementia, let alone now. With Hegseth running the Pentagon show, Iran could very well end up conquering the US (joking, obviously. well, only a little).

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            6 hours ago

            Exactly, they are clowns, fox news anchors are running the US Military. They will continue to step on the military leaders trying to do it right. They already fired half of them.

            Like Hitler micromanaging the russian campaign and dooming it changing objectives multiple times right before winter.

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        7 hours ago

        If the closure of the straits leads to the end of Trump’s plans

        Oh, absolutely, I’m just not sure it will. On one hand, his constituents could see him as ineffective and withdraw their support, but previous experience tells us this is unlikely. On the other hand, economical hardships historically tend to increase support for the far right. And while the military needs fuel, there is no realistic scenario in which the US cannot source enough to continue the war.

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      11 hours ago

      Yeah it’s quite a shame that we all put our eggs in your evil basket. The sooner we get what we can out of it, the better. Obviously a few will be broken but it’s better than you greedy fat fucks eating all our eggs.