“And the other half isn’t doing shit about it.” That’s some opinion for someone with no experience of talking to actual Americans. Your level of confidence in your ignorance is the exact problem with the half of my country I’m on the verge of a Civil War with.
That’s some opinion for someone with no experience of talking to actual Americans
Uh no - I’m an American who emigrated in 2022. Prior to that, I had spent much of my time in political activism - among them organizing protests against the Iraq War, electoral work for the Democrats, multiple DSA chapters (and associated electoral work), and SRA and other left-wing groups.
I am VERY well aware of not only Americans, but also the standard belief that international law can be routinely ignored, and there’s no individual civic responsibility other than hectoring others to Vote Blue No Matter Who and watch late night talk shows to be told you’re smarter than the other side.
I’m on the verge of a Civil War with
Oh, are you armed? Prepared? Have you organized with others so you’re ready to fight?
“Prepared?” More than you mother fucker you ran away. I don’t have the privilege of being able to do that or I would. So enjoy having the honor of trashing your former country members who are in a lot of pain right now (pain you SHOULD apparently understand) while we fight for a land you abandoned like a bitch so you could stay in a safe place and laugh at our pain on the internet with strangers. Strangers who probably judge you just for being an American. You take your shitty self wherever you go. Maybe it is better that you aren’t here, we don’t need scared bitches who cry and run away, we need fighters. Not that I wouldn’t run if I could and take everyone i love with me, but I can’t. I do know that if I could I wouldn’t do it, then turn around and attack the ones I left who are still in it. What kind of fucked up monstrous sub human kind of walking cum dumpster fire would I be?
Yeah, after spending my time, including arrests, fighting. You weren’t there, were you?
I don’t have the privilege of being able to do that or I would
Of course you do. Just like you have the privilege of organizing now. But you aren’t, are you?
while we fight for a land you abandoned like a bitch
You’re not fighting. That’s exactly the point. You expect to have sympathy while you do nothing.
if I could and take everyone i love with me
My little keyboard warrior, I have plenty of people back there. Who are in danger. And are actively fighting.
You are not.
What kind of fucked up monstrous sub human kind of walking cum dumpster fire would I be?
The kind that does nothing while their government kills millions in their name, which is bad enough - but then wants to be excused from judgement even for their own inaction. Who wants to somehow feel morally superior to the MAGA chuds, despite doing nothing to stop them.
In other words, you’re a typical American. And I’m judging you precisely because of that. I’m not laughing, I’m simply not giving you special consideration like you seem to think the world should.
I will advise you that your American exceptionalism is quickly evaporating. I would very much advise you to fix your attitude quickly, or the world will be doing that for you.
Jesus Christ you have no depth to level of pos that you can be, do you? How tf would you even know if I’m fighting or not. I’m def doing more than a worthless bitch abandoner who thinks the world will embrace them because you left. When the shit hits the fan like you say, you won’t be safe either you stupid fuck. You will be blamed because you were born here just like everyone else. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that bigotry is a double edged sword. You have to be stupid as fuck…so fucking stupid.
who thinks the world will embrace them because you left
Of course I don’t think that. Trust me, I have to convince people here I’m not like you guys and it takes time.
I’m def doing more than a worthless bitch abandoner
Sure you are hon. That’s why you can’t name anything. And just reach for misogynistic terms - from behind your screen, of course.
When the shit hits the fan like you say, you won’t be safe either you stupid fuck. You will be blamed because you were born here just like everyone else.
No, because I can actually show my actions. Which continue in my new home as well. I don’t stop my responsbility either, and I don’t neglect it. You’re mad because I demand the same of you.
I get that you think you actually being judged for your inaction is the worst thing possible, but I promise you, there can and will be far worse things.
Take your anger from me and take actual action with it against the people you should be angry wtih. You’ll feel far better.
No my anger towards your pompous ass is equal to every Trump supporter that surrounds me and that is justified because you think just like them. Bitch isn’t a misogynistic word, it’s pretty gender neutral and you “sir” are a male bitch.
“Trust me, I have to convince people here I’m not like you and that takes time” First of all no I don’t trust you or anyone that speaks the way you do. If you think you convinced them you are different, you are probably more delusional than I thought. If they are anything like you, nothing you say or do will matter. I bet when you lived here, it wasn’t just the Magas that you had problems with, it was probably everyone and everything and I’m sure that doesn’t change for you no matter where you are. Stupid doesn’t fix itself because you move away from stupid people. You have to actually do real work on your personality, not just say you did and act like shit.
Stupid doesn’t fix itself because you move away from stupid people
I mean, the fact I’m bothering to talk to continue to talk to you is proof of that.
So I guess it’s obvious you’re not actually going to do anything, correct? You’re just going to complain you don’t get a pass because you TOTALLY feel different, despite doing nothing differently, as your government murders children?
Yeah I don’t know what you get away with in your country. Maybe you are allowed to have asshole points of view because people aren’t used to spotting the red flags yet. When the rest of you all who are condemning ALL Americans as if we are all the same start spouting off your bullshit you just sound like a red hat wearing piece of sub human garbage like all the rest of the biggots.
See above - I am a former American. Partially because of actually taking action is why I don’t live there anymore.
Aside from a VERY small minority, you are all the same when it comes to actual action or taking responsbility for your murderous government. And you people that want to whine “not ALL of us” are not those exceptions, in my experience.
Perhaps I’m wrong - want to explain to me exactly how you’re opposing this government that is murdering children?
And what exactly the fuck are you doing? And what exactly the fuck would you have me do? I don’t have a god damn army at my disposal or I would do a reverse January 6th on his ass. If they ever drafted me, I would explain very clearly that if they put a gun in my hand I would use it to immediately kill myself with it. I joined my city’s division of a group called "Indivisble ". It’s an anti fascism organization that had groups in every major city, even the smaller ones like mine. I live in a red state where I’m mostly surrounded by Trump signs in people’s yards yet the only Trump supporters in my life are family members who I cut off for that very reason. I don’t have to deal with any others unless I’m in public. The reason for this is because, guess what?..There aren’t so many fucking insane Trump supporters, even in a red state, that i cannot successfully avoid them in my day to day. Unless im at work, I dont see them or hear their bull shit (their bullshit that sounds just like yours but using different labels, Americans instead of immigrants or blacks or gays, it doesn’t matter bigotry is all the same) because unlike your twisted media influenced pov of America, we are not 99% Trump supporters. Idk the real percentage, it’s most likely closer to 50%. If I were to do a survey of everyone in whatever place you live, I guarantee about 50% of them would be walking trash and I would include you with them.
OK. You want to organize, feel free to DM me your location. I would advise as a start to find your local SRA.
Take note it WILL put a target on you, and you WILL need to be careful about opsec, infosec, etc as the feds likely have agents in there. Organizing there is one reason I’m not in the US currently. But you want to find others to organize with, that’s where you start. ESECIALLY in red states.
Having done it, I will say that organizers in red states tend to be more effective, just because of the pressure that’s there.
And the other half isn’t doing shit about it.
Nah, he’s just too stupid to lie about it well. But violating international law and the like is normal American behavior.
“And the other half isn’t doing shit about it.” That’s some opinion for someone with no experience of talking to actual Americans. Your level of confidence in your ignorance is the exact problem with the half of my country I’m on the verge of a Civil War with.
Uh no - I’m an American who emigrated in 2022. Prior to that, I had spent much of my time in political activism - among them organizing protests against the Iraq War, electoral work for the Democrats, multiple DSA chapters (and associated electoral work), and SRA and other left-wing groups.
I am VERY well aware of not only Americans, but also the standard belief that international law can be routinely ignored, and there’s no individual civic responsibility other than hectoring others to Vote Blue No Matter Who and watch late night talk shows to be told you’re smarter than the other side.
Oh, are you armed? Prepared? Have you organized with others so you’re ready to fight?
“Prepared?” More than you mother fucker you ran away. I don’t have the privilege of being able to do that or I would. So enjoy having the honor of trashing your former country members who are in a lot of pain right now (pain you SHOULD apparently understand) while we fight for a land you abandoned like a bitch so you could stay in a safe place and laugh at our pain on the internet with strangers. Strangers who probably judge you just for being an American. You take your shitty self wherever you go. Maybe it is better that you aren’t here, we don’t need scared bitches who cry and run away, we need fighters. Not that I wouldn’t run if I could and take everyone i love with me, but I can’t. I do know that if I could I wouldn’t do it, then turn around and attack the ones I left who are still in it. What kind of fucked up monstrous sub human kind of walking cum dumpster fire would I be?
Yeah, after spending my time, including arrests, fighting. You weren’t there, were you?
Of course you do. Just like you have the privilege of organizing now. But you aren’t, are you?
You’re not fighting. That’s exactly the point. You expect to have sympathy while you do nothing.
My little keyboard warrior, I have plenty of people back there. Who are in danger. And are actively fighting.
You are not.
The kind that does nothing while their government kills millions in their name, which is bad enough - but then wants to be excused from judgement even for their own inaction. Who wants to somehow feel morally superior to the MAGA chuds, despite doing nothing to stop them.
In other words, you’re a typical American. And I’m judging you precisely because of that. I’m not laughing, I’m simply not giving you special consideration like you seem to think the world should.
I will advise you that your American exceptionalism is quickly evaporating. I would very much advise you to fix your attitude quickly, or the world will be doing that for you.
Jesus Christ you have no depth to level of pos that you can be, do you? How tf would you even know if I’m fighting or not. I’m def doing more than a worthless bitch abandoner who thinks the world will embrace them because you left. When the shit hits the fan like you say, you won’t be safe either you stupid fuck. You will be blamed because you were born here just like everyone else. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not understand that bigotry is a double edged sword. You have to be stupid as fuck…so fucking stupid.
Of course I don’t think that. Trust me, I have to convince people here I’m not like you guys and it takes time.
Sure you are hon. That’s why you can’t name anything. And just reach for misogynistic terms - from behind your screen, of course.
No, because I can actually show my actions. Which continue in my new home as well. I don’t stop my responsbility either, and I don’t neglect it. You’re mad because I demand the same of you.
I get that you think you actually being judged for your inaction is the worst thing possible, but I promise you, there can and will be far worse things.
Take your anger from me and take actual action with it against the people you should be angry wtih. You’ll feel far better.
No my anger towards your pompous ass is equal to every Trump supporter that surrounds me and that is justified because you think just like them. Bitch isn’t a misogynistic word, it’s pretty gender neutral and you “sir” are a male bitch.
“Trust me, I have to convince people here I’m not like you and that takes time” First of all no I don’t trust you or anyone that speaks the way you do. If you think you convinced them you are different, you are probably more delusional than I thought. If they are anything like you, nothing you say or do will matter. I bet when you lived here, it wasn’t just the Magas that you had problems with, it was probably everyone and everything and I’m sure that doesn’t change for you no matter where you are. Stupid doesn’t fix itself because you move away from stupid people. You have to actually do real work on your personality, not just say you did and act like shit.
I mean, the fact I’m bothering to talk to continue to talk to you is proof of that.
So I guess it’s obvious you’re not actually going to do anything, correct? You’re just going to complain you don’t get a pass because you TOTALLY feel different, despite doing nothing differently, as your government murders children?
Here’s a good term for you to learn then, I hope it haunts you . . . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_German
Yeah I don’t know what you get away with in your country. Maybe you are allowed to have asshole points of view because people aren’t used to spotting the red flags yet. When the rest of you all who are condemning ALL Americans as if we are all the same start spouting off your bullshit you just sound like a red hat wearing piece of sub human garbage like all the rest of the biggots.
See above - I am a former American. Partially because of actually taking action is why I don’t live there anymore.
Aside from a VERY small minority, you are all the same when it comes to actual action or taking responsbility for your murderous government. And you people that want to whine “not ALL of us” are not those exceptions, in my experience.
Perhaps I’m wrong - want to explain to me exactly how you’re opposing this government that is murdering children?
And what exactly the fuck are you doing? And what exactly the fuck would you have me do? I don’t have a god damn army at my disposal or I would do a reverse January 6th on his ass. If they ever drafted me, I would explain very clearly that if they put a gun in my hand I would use it to immediately kill myself with it. I joined my city’s division of a group called "Indivisble ". It’s an anti fascism organization that had groups in every major city, even the smaller ones like mine. I live in a red state where I’m mostly surrounded by Trump signs in people’s yards yet the only Trump supporters in my life are family members who I cut off for that very reason. I don’t have to deal with any others unless I’m in public. The reason for this is because, guess what?..There aren’t so many fucking insane Trump supporters, even in a red state, that i cannot successfully avoid them in my day to day. Unless im at work, I dont see them or hear their bull shit (their bullshit that sounds just like yours but using different labels, Americans instead of immigrants or blacks or gays, it doesn’t matter bigotry is all the same) because unlike your twisted media influenced pov of America, we are not 99% Trump supporters. Idk the real percentage, it’s most likely closer to 50%. If I were to do a survey of everyone in whatever place you live, I guarantee about 50% of them would be walking trash and I would include you with them.
OK. You want to organize, feel free to DM me your location. I would advise as a start to find your local SRA.
Take note it WILL put a target on you, and you WILL need to be careful about opsec, infosec, etc as the feds likely have agents in there. Organizing there is one reason I’m not in the US currently. But you want to find others to organize with, that’s where you start. ESECIALLY in red states.
Having done it, I will say that organizers in red states tend to be more effective, just because of the pressure that’s there.
Otherwise, start voting with your feet.