People are not allowed to disagree or not like? What’s the downvote button even for then?
I also read a post about downvoted content being “buried”, so I guess most people have their feed by Hot and that’s why? And what would be wrong with that anyway?
New gang till death, I like my content chronologically.
ps: What was that site you could see your upvotes/downvotes? I’m curious about my ratio and how grumpy I have become.
I mean both in reddit and lemmy the concept of downvotes was never meant to be a “agree” or “disagree”, even “like or dislike”. It’s meant to be a “good for discussion” vs “hinderance of discussion”. AKA lets say we’re discussing linux distributions, I come across this.
Person A: I like linux mint, it’s much easier to install, I like the defaults and my printer just works with no setup.
Person B: “Linux mint is for noobs, arch ftw”
Within that, as I am personally a die hard fan of archlinux, so in the agree vs disagree system, I should downvote A and upvote B.
But in a discussion based voting, I’d perhaps respond to A with my pro’s or cons of arch (though in this situation probably agree if the user in question sounds to be a newer user, though I may still make a case for possibly the pro’s of using arch even as a starting distro.
Meanwhile person B, is hostile, gives zero details for WHY anyone should use arch, does absolutely nothing to open discussion or actually help anyone make an informed decision.
“The purpose of a system is what it does” (POSIWID).
Voting increases or decreases visibility; thus, I vote to increase or decrease visibility.
I want good posts to be more visible.
Lots of people conflate good with what they like.
that’s a great quote, thanks for sharing
True and that’s why Reddit/Lemmy have flawed voting systems. Their intended and actual uses are quite different.
I still think SlashDot’s voting system was the best I’ve ever seen, where you could attach a reason to your upvote/down vote, and then sort by e.g. most funny, or most insightful…
I’d combine Slashdot’s voting system with the original iteration of the long defunct Facepunch Forums Smartness system. It was rather mean but I loved how it boosted overall communication quality because it forced users to spellcheck and avoid using slurs.
Facepunch also had emoticon reactions like Pylova/Piefed although our system is pretty shit with WAY too many emoticons, so much so that they’ll fail to all fully load in.
Basically a new account started with 5000 points. Different spelling or grammar mistakes along with slurs lost you differing amounts of points. You gained points with error free posts/replies, but it was balanced in such a way that you’d lose points and get auto banned when you hit 0 pretty quickly if you didn’t try to improve. Uncorrected errors would be underlined, colored red, and visible to everyone else. IIRC you could edit posts and correct them but you didn’t regain lost points by doing so, just avoided having shameful red errors.
Sounds interesting, I wonder how they deal with false positives? My autocorrect detects way too many words that it thinks doesn’t exist.
Interesting!
I think slashdots also most useful for if I recall, basically no ability to vote.
IE If I remember right, as a lurker you get no votes. You basically have to participate, and if you get votes on a post, you then get a handful of votes you can use on others. I do wonder how a system like that would work on other sites. If a modernized form of it could work on a reddit like site etc… Would on the surface appear to be a way to counteract bots, but also run the risk of say one bot getting votes and automating a circle jerk with it’s clones.
Or simply having bots copy top posts from a year earlier to get upvotes, like they did on Reddit.
Yep, when I was on there, I’d give +1 to funny and +2 to trolls. If someone showed up due to their high trolling votes, it was either the wildest or most hateful shit, but it was a hell of a read. Some of it was damned funny.