• rabber@lemmy.ca
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    Case reminds me a little bit of the guy who decapitated the random person on a bus in winnipeg.

    That guy was set free due to the insanity defence.

    Is he evil? No, probably not, but he’s capable of doing evil things. What happens when they arbitrarily decide to stop taking their meds again?

    Also, aren’t almost all evil acts a result of mental illness? Why does lindsay get a pass? Wouldn’t you say that every single person that kills their kids are mentally ill?

    I feel bad for those with mental illness, but I also don’t want to live in a society with these people at all. If a person killed a child they should be locked away so there is no chance of it happening again.

    My biggest bafflement though comes from how she has fans and supporters. It is a very scary thing on full display right now.

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      No, probably not, but he’s capable of doing evil things.

      Just a side-note: show me the human that isn’t capable of doing evil things? Some just needs a bit more vigorous pushing than others. But it’s never an infinite amount.

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      I know. She didn’t wake up one day with serious MH issues, she’d been repeatedly told what she needed to do. She didn’t do it. She’s also shown intent eg killing the kids in the basement where she’s less likely to be caught. What happens next time she doesn’t take her medication? And how is her MH likely to IMPROVE now she’s responsible for killing her kids, paralysed and gone through the court case?

      Whichever way you look at it, 3 beautiful children are dead. And it’s just fucking awful

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        Also people don’t seem to be thinking about the bigger picture here. What do you think will happen with a not guilty verdict? Maga is going to have a field day with this. It wouldn’t even surprise me that this is a psyop designed to kill decades of feminism progress.

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          It’s a good thing our justice system is not built on how different political factions will react to certain verdicts. We’d never have integrated schools if that was the case.

          I don’t know how you come to the conclusion that this is somehow a psyop. Unfortunately, people, including women, sometimes kill their children. Treating this as though it’s designed to kill the progress of feminism is not really supported by the facts.

          Rather than reply to this comment and your above comment, I just want to add here that just because people are rallying around her in this moment does not mean they support her actions. I don’t think people are attempting to suggest what she did was ok, just to raise awareness about how severely childbirth and motherhood can affect women psychologically and how we need to do more as a society to support people in these positions. Especially when you take into account the seemingly negligent way in which many mental health issues are treated on their own without the addition of motherhood. It seems like she was struggling mentally before all of this and I wonder what kind of plans her, her husband, and her doctors had discussed regarding childrearing. If it was never broached that is likely an issue in itself.

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            I think it could be a psyop in that tiktok/others is pushing a certain algorithm to gullible people on what is an obviously very dividing and engaging topic and it will be used against said people who are incriminating themselves online to strip their rights citing they are not fit for society, and in this case, almost unanimously women. Snowden spoke on what a permanent record online means almost 15 years ago and this is about to come to fruition. And the US is spiraling into christian nationalism

            For the average walmart american this case is cut and dry: she killed her children and there is an alarmingly large portion of people defending her. There has never been a case in history where a large portion of people have rallied behind someone who have killed their kids. Not one single example.

            Why did this case blow up on social media suddenly anyway? This is so obviously politically motivated in my opinion.

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              Cases like this often make the news. It’s sensational because it goes against one of the things we think is foundational to society. We see similar things with cases where kids kill their parents, but less since we expect parents to care for their kids more. People still talk about Casey Anthony and the even the dingo case. This case may be getting more publicity than others because of a variety of factors, including her prolonged struggle with mental health, but I really don’t think it’s so substantial I’d call it a psyop. I’m not on TikTok though so I don’t know what they’re saying there.

              I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you assume, seeing that a jury of those same Americans don’t seem to think it’s as cut and dry. I think a lot of people don’t actually understand what you refer to as “Walmart Americans” actually believe. I understand the fear that America is backsliding, but suggesting that we give up on justice does not help us. I’d also like to point out that people don’t think she should walk free. Even in your original comment you note that you don’t want to live in a society with people like her. She will likely be in a mental health facility for a long time if not her life. I don’t think most people think prison is the right place for someone with such severe mental illnesses and the jury seems to reflect that.

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                This is a showing my ignorance but can she be locked away in a mental health facility? In Canada this hasn’t been a thing for many years. It’s prison or back into society with medication after they decide you are fit for society. Maybe a short hospital visit if lucky. Usually whichever is cheapest