Trump has suggested steam catapults every year since 2017, saying digital systems are too ‘complicated’

After nearly a decade of loudly complaining about the fact that modern US aircraft carriers use electromagnetic systems to launch fighter jets instead of steam-powered catapults, Donald Trump has directed the Pentagon to redesign a new aircraft carrier to replace the modern system with the old-fashioned catapults he prefers.

Trump signed a national security memorandum on Thursday directing the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, and the acting navy secretary, Hung Cao, to make the change he has had his heart set on since at least 2017, when he first described his idea to Time magazine.

The memorandum gives the Pentagon leaders 60 days to come up with “a plan on the required measures to replace the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System and Advanced Weapons Elevators with steam and hydraulic systems for the construction of” the USS Doris Miller, a Ford-class aircraft carrier, which is already two years behind schedule.

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    The issue between the two systems is isolation. In the old C-13 series if one track needed repair, you have to shut steam off to that track. The rest can keep going. In the EMALS there’s just the one centralize power architecture, so if a track has to go down, it takes the whole thing down with it.

    Few really want to return to steam. It requires a lot of the ship to house special high pressure equipment and requires more maintenance overall to keep it running. Additionally, a lot of the drones designed need the precise control that the EMALS provides to not break apart. But it’s hard to point out all the various tooling that has to go on behind the scenes when one track goes down with steam, when the whole effing thing with EMALS has to go down and no launching happens for hours.

    And that’s ultimately what happens, the metrics that are being used are getting aircraft into the air, not overall downtime or cost to operate. And EMALS is still struggling to hit the numbers it has to hit and likely won’t hit them till around 2030. Every time it goes down, every zero aircrafts it gets pulls that metric down hard.

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      It’s so simple to solve though, just have the track squirt up a bit of fog machine smoke each time it runs and tell him it’s steam powered again. What is he going to do, go check? Just lie, that’s our culture now, just lie about it.

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      But her EMALS

      (sorry, I actually enjoyed your contribution though)

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      You’d think that an electric system should allow for relatively easy isolation – isolating electric circuits from each other with breakers is hardly new technology. Is this lack of isolation a design flaw of EMALS or is there an actual physical reason why it couldn’t be designed with independently powerable tracks?

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          Absolutely wild that this wasn’t part of the original design. I can turn off power to my stove without shutting down my whole house, but the US Navy can’t independently power launch systems.

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          You’d think the United States would take great care when designing their main tools for global power projection. And you’d probably be right; I can imagine that countless hours were invested into determining where the parts get built and which senators get to politically benefit from that. Technological details don’t really matter; at worst you can just turn flaws into lucrative followup contracts for companies in the stock portfolios of top politicians.

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          Ding, ding. Yeah. Happens with Government contracts. Corners get cut. Just a symptom of … gestures towards Washington DC

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        As the other person mentioned, they’re looking to fix the “shortcomings” of the current system. Happens in government projects that corners get cut and that short-term “fixes” ends up having long-term “issues”.

        That said, dropping the whole thing to go back to steam because of corners being cut is a royally stupid idea. But I mean we are talking about a guy who decided to just level an entire wing of the White House before anything to replace it was actually thought out and approved.

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        I’m wondering if they mean that the points of failure are overall harder to isolate? Like, I don’t know… can the steam system work if the ship looses power? That would be a level of isolation that I imagine EMALS can’t do. But then I’d wonder, what if each track had its own generator? Oh… hey, just use steam generators. Problem solved, Trump won’t tell the difference,

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      No they don’t, there’s still 4 units one per launcher. Most of problems you mention seems to come from energy storage system. Energy is stored in the flywheels, which requires annoying converter, so chinese variant uses giant set of supercapacitors instead which is just a bit heavier and has less problems with communications interference. Also can be split in many parts and fit in any space you have. Mostly benefit of being designed later. Zero surprises if americans figure it’s better but institutional inertia keeps them using the old one