How bad do we let things get? Should we wait until the planet can’t sustain life anymore? Should we wait until it’s 100 degrees F in the Artic? Until wildfires blanket entire continents or the last glacier is gone? Should we wait until fascist billionaires take even more from us? Until there are Flock cameras at every mail box? Maybe we should wait until the wells run dry or the tornadoes never stop. When is it going to be enough? I’m so tired of seeing things getting worse. Every. Single. Day. I’m ready. I’ve been ready. How about you?

How do we coordinate? How do we look after each other? What is the signal? If we don’t work together then we are just continuing our slow march to destruction to the drum of the parasitic billionaires. Please, for us, for the cats, the dogs, the birds and trees. The fish and the whales, the beatles and the centipedes. Please tell me it’s worth it to you, that you’re willing to get uncomfortable, that you’re willing to fight. There are more of us than them, and we are rapidly running out of time to make that mean something.

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    Dude, in the fucking thread you linked you state - multiple times - America deserved 9/11.

    I’m not playing extremist whack-a-mole with you fucking trogs, there’s nothing surface level about my interpretation - you’re sitting here crying about me dehumanizing you when you started the conversation by dehumanizing Americans.

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      just establishing that your support of trans people is conditional on your approval of their politics

      you are being very evasive about your participation in the carceral state, was it just a job for you or do you really like putting people in cages?

      ‘land of the free’ with more people imprisoned than anywhere else in the world point-and-laugh-2 amerikkka

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        Oh, is ‘dude’ not gender neutral anymore? I can never figure out with you people, what is and what isn’t transphobia changes with the wind and depends on which person you’re speaking to.

        I don’t care, cry about it in your echo chamber - I’m sure that’ll make your life better.

        Edit: Also no, I’m not being evasive - I just don’t like you. Why would I engage in good faith with someone who would just as soon see me dead?

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          ‘you people’ i-cant

          i’m not a fan of getting called ‘dude’, but that was not i was referring to.

          i was referring to how you in the conversation i linked you claim to support trans people but then roll out transphobia alongside all your other abuse any time your sacred cow (american chauvinism) is threatened.

          I’d say it’s alarming that you can’t see why that’s a problem, but I’m used to how ignorant cops can be

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            i’m not a fan of getting called ‘dude’, but that was not i was referring to.

            Yes we’ve established that you’re an extremist, the question was rhetorical.

            I’m not a cop, but I do think it’s funny that you assume ‘you people’ means trans people and not tankies/far left extremists. Big ‘I’m just asking questions’ energy on your redefining of the words ‘Death to America’.

            Again, I don’t give a shit that you’re trans - that’s ultimately where my support of trans people begins and ends. You’re a shithead just like the bulk of humanity, what color you paint yourself with doesn’t matter to me - it all ends up looking like targets to poke at.

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              you’re not a cop, just a coworker, got it. maybe collaborator?

              anyway i’m actually just citing the actual meaning behind ‘death to america’ as intended by the people using the chant.

              framing it as an attack on the american people rather than the government is just again demonstrating your surface level understanding of things.

              you are literally the blue version of maga

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                Nope, I’ve not worked for the DoJ for years - as a contractor I’ve worked with various state departments over the course of my career. Speaking of which, I’ve gone to every No King’s protest and handed out abolish ICE stickers - not sure how that makes me a collaborator.

                framing it as an attack on the american people rather than the government is just again demonstrating your surface level understanding of things.

                So, and I need you to pay the fuck attention to what I’m asking, why would anyone ever assume that this ‘real meaning’ matters when tensions between both countries have been rising over the past 70 years?

                Why would I, ever, as an American assume that ‘Death to America’ combined with ‘America deserved 9/11’ doesn’t mean exactly what the fuck it says?

                ‘I’m just joking!’ ‘I’m just asking questions!’ ‘I’m just citing the original meaning!’

                You can fuck right off with that bullshit.

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                  glad that you’re attending the performative protests, I’m not a big fan of the indivisible orgs i’ve run into. most recently had one group attempt to burn our local anti-ice group because they did a protest without a permit. complete impotent hall monitor energy.

                  Why would I, ever, as an American assume that ‘Death to America’ combined with ‘America deserved 9/11’ doesn’t mean exactly what the fuck it says?

                  I mean i do expect ignorance from americans, I live here and i see it every day. I like to challenge you guys a little bit, gives you room to show what you really think about the rest of us.

                  when tensions between both countries have been rising over the past 70 years?

                  that’s a hell of a euphamism for 'we couped their government and have been waging decades of economic war

                  you definitely sound like a government employee, bought in

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                    glad that you’re attending the performative protests

                    Right, I forgot - nothing short of bombing the place I work will do. No I need to give you a diatribe of all the ways I’ve made life hard for ICE/MAGAts - because only then can I be a true scotsman I mean comrade.

                    I’m not a big fan of the indivisible orgs i’ve run into. most recently had one group attempt to burn our local anti-ice group because they did a protest without a permit. complete impotent hall monitor energy.

                    This is weird, I went to the protests specifically to connect with groups that would act outside of the protests.

                    I mean i do expect ignorance from americans, I live here and i see it every day. I like to challenge you guys a little bit, gives you room to show what you really think about the rest of us.

                    My dudette, you don’t need to bother punctuating. If it gets you to the answers faster I don’t give a shit. Also, none of this has been a challenge - this is just me killing time.

                    that’s a hell of a euphamism for 'we couped their government and have been waging decades of economic war

                    Where did I say that this was good? When have I ever said the Iranians deserve what’s happened to them? When have I ever said that the U.S. should be in the Middle East? I’m surprised you haven’t tried to say I’m pro Israel.

                    Holy shit, you’re sitting here trying to suggest I’m ignoring nuance when that is quite literally your entire shtick. You’re sitting here acting like you don’t know damn well what you were doing (shit slinging, exactly like I was) and you expect me to treat you with respect?