How bad do we let things get? Should we wait until the planet can’t sustain life anymore? Should we wait until it’s 100 degrees F in the Artic? Until wildfires blanket entire continents or the last glacier is gone? Should we wait until fascist billionaires take even more from us? Until there are Flock cameras at every mail box? Maybe we should wait until the wells run dry or the tornadoes never stop. When is it going to be enough? I’m so tired of seeing things getting worse. Every. Single. Day. I’m ready. I’ve been ready. How about you?

How do we coordinate? How do we look after each other? What is the signal? If we don’t work together then we are just continuing our slow march to destruction to the drum of the parasitic billionaires. Please, for us, for the cats, the dogs, the birds and trees. The fish and the whales, the beatles and the centipedes. Please tell me it’s worth it to you, that you’re willing to get uncomfortable, that you’re willing to fight. There are more of us than them, and we are rapidly running out of time to make that mean something.

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    you’re not a cop, just a coworker, got it. maybe collaborator?

    anyway i’m actually just citing the actual meaning behind ‘death to america’ as intended by the people using the chant.

    framing it as an attack on the american people rather than the government is just again demonstrating your surface level understanding of things.

    you are literally the blue version of maga

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      Nope, I’ve not worked for the DoJ for years - as a contractor I’ve worked with various state departments over the course of my career. Speaking of which, I’ve gone to every No King’s protest and handed out abolish ICE stickers - not sure how that makes me a collaborator.

      framing it as an attack on the american people rather than the government is just again demonstrating your surface level understanding of things.

      So, and I need you to pay the fuck attention to what I’m asking, why would anyone ever assume that this ‘real meaning’ matters when tensions between both countries have been rising over the past 70 years?

      Why would I, ever, as an American assume that ‘Death to America’ combined with ‘America deserved 9/11’ doesn’t mean exactly what the fuck it says?

      ‘I’m just joking!’ ‘I’m just asking questions!’ ‘I’m just citing the original meaning!’

      You can fuck right off with that bullshit.

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        glad that you’re attending the performative protests, I’m not a big fan of the indivisible orgs i’ve run into. most recently had one group attempt to burn our local anti-ice group because they did a protest without a permit. complete impotent hall monitor energy.

        Why would I, ever, as an American assume that ‘Death to America’ combined with ‘America deserved 9/11’ doesn’t mean exactly what the fuck it says?

        I mean i do expect ignorance from americans, I live here and i see it every day. I like to challenge you guys a little bit, gives you room to show what you really think about the rest of us.

        when tensions between both countries have been rising over the past 70 years?

        that’s a hell of a euphamism for 'we couped their government and have been waging decades of economic war

        you definitely sound like a government employee, bought in

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          glad that you’re attending the performative protests

          Right, I forgot - nothing short of bombing the place I work will do. No I need to give you a diatribe of all the ways I’ve made life hard for ICE/MAGAts - because only then can I be a true scotsman I mean comrade.

          I’m not a big fan of the indivisible orgs i’ve run into. most recently had one group attempt to burn our local anti-ice group because they did a protest without a permit. complete impotent hall monitor energy.

          This is weird, I went to the protests specifically to connect with groups that would act outside of the protests.

          I mean i do expect ignorance from americans, I live here and i see it every day. I like to challenge you guys a little bit, gives you room to show what you really think about the rest of us.

          My dudette, you don’t need to bother punctuating. If it gets you to the answers faster I don’t give a shit. Also, none of this has been a challenge - this is just me killing time.

          that’s a hell of a euphamism for 'we couped their government and have been waging decades of economic war

          Where did I say that this was good? When have I ever said the Iranians deserve what’s happened to them? When have I ever said that the U.S. should be in the Middle East? I’m surprised you haven’t tried to say I’m pro Israel.

          Holy shit, you’re sitting here trying to suggest I’m ignoring nuance when that is quite literally your entire shtick. You’re sitting here acting like you don’t know damn well what you were doing (shit slinging, exactly like I was) and you expect me to treat you with respect?

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            because only then can I be a true scotsman I mean comrade.

            tbh at this point even if you did luigi your office i would still disavow you on the basis of your gross behavior to me

            like if you’re actually opposed to the carceral state that you were a part of and have some remorse about that i would think you would have a little less vitriol for those of us on the left that call for it to be abolished.

            i call for death to america because we bring death everywhere else and comfortable americans need to have their sensibilities shocked a bit.

            ‘amerikkka must be dismantled’ doesn’t have the same ring to it

            This is weird, I went to the protests specifically to connect with groups that would act outside of the protests.

            i go to these things for the same reason too yaknow. my orgs a regular at pretty much every protest.

            none of this has been a challenge

            tell me about it, i did get to educate you about my favorite political slogan tho at least ahaha

            you expect me to treat you with respect?

            yes. in every interaction we’ve had you seem to have more ire for people on your left than nazis, zionists, conservatives. if you want me to view you as anything other than an abusive asshole maybe you could try changing your tack

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              Yes nothing is ever good enough, blah blah blah, I’m a zionist or a fascist or whatever - shut the fuck up and crawl back into your safe space.

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                excuse me for having an opinion of you based on your actions and work history

                also ty for demonstrating again in classic bluemaga fashion you have more hostility to people on your left than nazis, zionists or conservatives

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                  You simply must be braindead, to think that I wouldn’t speak this way to conservatives or nazis. I’m not sure where the zionists are, but you seem to know much more about that than I do.

                  You can go cry in your safe space now, I’m sure there will be someone there you can circlejerk with.

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                    I’m not sure where the zionists are, but you seem to know much more about that than I do.

                    What do you mean? You post on meanwhileongrad, here’s you circlejerking about Hamas with some Zionists in your safe space.

                    In this you’re crying about how mean people are to Americans and then doing the same thing you did with me earlier. asserting that they’re fake trans for not going along with Zionist narratives about Muslims and for not being american jingoists like you are