The bodies were found Friday inside the Grand Haven residence, police said, and the children were 5 to 15 years old.
A man fatally shot his wife and their six children before he set the Michigan home they shared ablaze and turned the gun on himself, authorities said Monday.
Kristopher Karolkiewicz, 47, killed his wife, Amanda, 39, and their children, ages 5 to 15, Ottawa County Sheriff’s Capt. Jake Sparks said at a news conference.
They were found dead after first responders arrived at the home in Grand Haven, on the eastern shore of Lake Michigan, late Friday morning, Sparks said. Autopsies showed all had been shot, he said.
Was there a point toast was making beside whataboutism?
This case is a man killing his family and himself. Most family annihilators are male. That’s facts.
Wow, neat fact.
Yeah, it is. We need to be able to be honest about these kinds of stats in order to reduce them.
Ok—men are bad! Now what?
There’s some good conversation about motives and such elsewhere in this very thread. You might learn something :)
There really isn’t much to learn from misandry
Is it misandrist to correctly point out statistics about family annihilators?
Can you provide sources that prove its a crime committed by a larger group than men?
Is it being “honest about these kinds of stats” when you very specifically attack someone mentioning a part of these stats? You call it “whataboutism” and claim they’re “derailing the conversation” all while you completely derail the discussion with your own whataboutism and act like some innocent victim. It’s incredibly toxic.
I did read them, and there’s just a lot of you echoing men are bad.
Look deeper than gender finger pointing at what conditions of our society led to this outcome. Why do we live such isolated lives from our communities that allow these situation to occur?
No, I’m echoing that family annihilators are overwhelmingly male.
I’m very open to talking about WHY men are the ones to commit family annihilations at much higher rates than anyone else. And there’s some good convo happening about that in this very thread as well.