• ORbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Lately she’s not been impressing me. When she first came on the scene, I was highly in favor of her. She’s slowly been worn down by Mama Bear Pelosi and that ilk.

    It took her forever to find the right language for the genocide in Israel. She’s been slow or absent to speak up about what matters.

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      Nobody knew the threat of Hitler better than FDR. He wanted to start arming Britain and France the day the Nazis went into Poland, if not sooner. He had to wait for the right time.

      Another example. Frederick Douglas was an escaped slave. He had suffered the horrors not just observed them. When the 1860 election came around, Douglas stepped away form the candidate who wanted instant Abolition and backed Abe Lincoln, who said he would keep slavery if it meant saving the Union.

      Douglas decided it was smarter to back the winner and have the ear of a sitting President than it was to back someone he might have agreed with much more.

      Politics is a game, learn the rules

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          Frederick Douglas was an escaped slave. He had suffered the horrors not just observed them. When the 1860 election came around, Douglas stepped away form the candidate who wanted instant Abolition and backed Abe Lincoln, who said he would keep slavery if it meant saving the Union.

          Another good lesson is Obamacare. Even with majorities in both Houses, Obama barely managed to get the ACA passed. He thought that because he’d based his bill on Mitt Romney’s plan the GOP would embrace it. Instead they attacked full force. How Obama got it done is a master class in politics.

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          Mamdani literally, strategically avoided a fight with Hakeem Jefferies (as well as the NYPD) because it’s not the time.

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              No, no. When the country is even more in shambles, that’s when we’ll have the right where we want them. In this day and age of nearly instant information and social isolation you really gotta look to a time when newspapers, word-of-mouth, and rumors were the glue to a social hierarchy that was barely trying to remove slavery from its scaffolding. That’s what you really need to imitate, the past where brown people paid the heaviest price for not rocking the boat too much. Remember: Think of how much it upset the 1800s popular white vote, pay no attention to the popularity of progressivism, and don’t. rock. the boat.

              Spoiler

              /s

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              I wholeheartedly agree that “It’s not politically wise” is often a bullshit excuse.

              However, when you are an openly socialist mayor in the process of overhauling numerous aspects of city laws and regulations, opening a war on additional fronts is risky. The US public is tired of more of the same, but that doesn’t mean we live in a post-Red-Scare society.

              From what I understand, he’s focused on improving conditions in NYC to demonstrate that the policies and theory are effective and accumulate some public wins. If he doesn’t play nice in the meantime, national Democratic leaders might find ways to prevent him from getting many victories in NYC.

              Similarly, going to war with the NYPD would likely lead to them purposely doing a shit job to make him and his policies look bad. Police unions have done it multiple times. Again, he’s looking accumulate good will first so that the public will stay on his side when the NYPD pulls that bullshit.

              Normally, I’m in favor of organized labor… but using that power to protect corruption, racism, and the capital class basically makes them class traitors so get no sympathy from me.

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          I live in New York and voted for him.

          Mamdani barely squeaked in. He got 51% of the vote running against a known molester and a radio host in a funny hat. Harris got 65% of the NYC vote and Biden got 80%.

          Don’t confuse one battle with winning the war.

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            And don’t confuse barely winning with what I intend: he’s running his government in a way that they should be trying to emulate and copy.

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      A while ago jacobin had some stats showing how often she would mention Medicare for all, and it decreases by a lot as time went on