• iknewitwhenisawit@fedinsfw.app
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    17 days ago

    There was an article a few years ago about Zwarte Piet. Someone commented that Zwarte Piet was fine, not racist at all. A person replied that they were black and lived in Holland and that they felt like Zwarte Piet was a bit racist. The original commenter told them to go back to Africa.

    So anyway, that’s kind of where we’re at.

    • Humanius@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      The Zwarte Piet discussion has been ongoing for the past decade orso, and especially a few years ago that discussion was very heated.

      As someone who lives in the Netherlands, I get the impression that at this point the vast majority of people accept that Zwarte Piet in its old form is not really acceptable anymore. It does help that, unlike a few years ago, there have been proposals to update the tradition without making a complete mockery out of it.

      The new the design of the soot-face Piet is a decent compromise, and more in line with the story we have been telling kids for decades anyway.

      • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
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        17 days ago

        When I was a kid, we moved to NL. This was in the 90s

        I was always confused why my mom found zwarte Piet so weird

        Years later: “oh… Oh no”