• PapaStevesy@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Well, having a verifiably insane monarch sure couldn’t have helped.

    It’s obviously foolish for anyone to try and argue exactly what happened when for which reasons, we weren’t in those rooms having those conversations so we’ll never really know. We do know that the colonists hated what they considered overreaching British control (it was kind of the reason they left in the first place), and we know that the British were broke af and desparate to wring every penny they could out of the colonies to pay for wars on the other side of the ocean (sounds familiar). But you bring up a good point in Ireland, they were famously treated so well by the British and therefore were predictably loyal and peaceful subjects of the Crown 🤣🤣🤣

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      5 days ago

      We do know that the colonists hated what they considered overreaching British control

      Do we? Or is that the story that has been written after the fact to justify what they did and make it seem more noble?

      It sounds to me like you’re a product of the US educational system and have accepted what you learned there without questioning it.

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        5 days ago

        Yes we do, it’s literally the reason they left in the first place. There were protests all across the colonies, the British even repealed the Stamp Act due to the blowback. There are pamphlets, books, and vast quantities of recorded speeches and debates from both sides of the Atlantic on the issue. From before the revolution.

        Sounds to me like you’re a product of the Ignorant Blowhard educational system and have assumed you know everything about everything with little evidence to support the assumption.

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          5 days ago

          Yes we do, it’s literally the reason they left in the first place.

          According to what you learned in an American elementary school?

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              4 days ago

              They’re of course going to give you the surface level, popular version of what happened. If you want to actually know the real story you need to talk to historians.

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                4 days ago

                No you need to talk to people who have been dead for hundreds of years, your entire argument is based on not trusting historians.

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                  4 days ago

                  Historians are the ones who break through the myths. Myths are what you’re taught in school. In school they told you all about how the US founding fathers were heroic figures fighting for their freedom…

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                    4 days ago

                    Did you forget how you wanted to end that or…? 🤷‍♂️

                    Regardless, if you don’t think historians are writing history books, what do you think they’re doing? And no, in school they taught me that the US founding fathers founded the US, pretty objective stuff. You know, names, dates, locations, etc. I’m fascinated to hear what else you think I was taught though, this is fun!