• Andrew Beveridge@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    I sorta hear where you’re coming from but I think for most people, someone getting out there and shooting someone is a million times more ballsy and proactive than we’ll ever be. Agreed that it was misguided/naive though. I think it’s hard to know what will actually bring about the much needed change.

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        6 days ago

        Bernie Sanders is well loved, but also extremely old, and doesn’t seem to have passed the torch to the next generation of like minded politicians.

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          6 days ago

          Bernie Sanders is well loved, but also extremely old, and doesn’t seem to have passed the torch to the next generation of like minded politicians.

          I mean what would you call AOC, and Mandami, there’s no torch, Bernie is 1 of 100 senators. He’s never tried to sell himself as some special perfect person. Isn’t any time he endorses someone that passing the torch. He doesn’t have to step down to have an air apparent. I’m sure if someone with good ideas went to run in vermont he’d probably step down for it. but right now the game is national, and he’s playing it on a national level.

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            5 days ago

            I mean what would you call AOC, and Mandami,

            Young.

            (Sorry. Had to.)

            An 84 year old shouldn’t be in that position no matter how they outwardly appear. He’s doing a fine job but he could be doing a better job helping to build more "1 in 100"s to make a change.

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          6 days ago

          Well he has endorsed a lot of people over the years, actually went on tour after the 2024 election ended to get people across the USA more involved in politics at every level and vowing to support then in the midterms.

          I follow him on YouTube and he does A LOT of rallies. They seem pretty cool, they always have some local musicians play a few songs before he goes on.

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            6 days ago

            Why is he still in his seat when he’s well past retirement age? Why doesn’t he have a successor? He’s 84.

            RBG was 87 when she died, and she held onto that position long enough to have a Republican appoint her replacement.

            I like Bernie but I’m concerned why he hasn’t passed the touch.

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              5 days ago

              I think the key is he’s in a local position. Point is no matter what, his “replacement” has to run and win. Point is, he helps good people win wherever they happen to be. For the most part senator isn’t an entry level job. Right now I’d say it’s fair to say Bernie is to my knowledge the best currently sitting senator, if I’m missing something blatant he’s at minimum top 5.

              Senate isn’t exactly a position where you can pick an heir apparent, and for the most part people can only win with experience winning a mayorship, governor or house of representatives seat first. Fact is there’s 99 senate seats with people not as good as him to replace, 465 house seats, 50 governors, tons of mayorships etc… that he can throw his weight at besides his own. Yes it would be great if there was a 40ish year old bright and scrappy contender for senate in vermont that bernies endorsement would make a shoe in… but to my knowledge there isn’t.

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                I think the key is he’s in a local position

                Sanders is a Senator. Are we defining Senators as local, now?

                Senate isn’t exactly a position where you can pick an heir apparent

                It’s a tough pill to swallow that our favorite guy should have stepped down at least a cycle ago due to his age. If a dude from his party is elected next, it’ll be really unfortunate.

                Yes it would be great if there was a 40ish year old bright and scrappy contender for senate in vermont that bernies endorsement would make a shoe in… but to my knowledge there isn’t.

                This is the problem. Why isn’t there?

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                  Sanders is a Senator. Are we defining Senators as local, now?

                  Why wouldn’t we, in a country with a population of about 230 million people, about half a million are qualified to actually run for office there, because you have to live in Vermont.

                  This is the problem. Why isn’t there?

                  Why aren’t there 2 in every state is the real question. I’d say among the issues is, 1. again senator isn’t entry level, So people who Bernie reached in his 2016 presidential bid, are still getting their feet in the door, pushing through the beurocracy and the pacs trying to keep them from getting elected to lower offices etc…

                  and yeah a lot of it is to be blamed on us the voters, that there’s not enough of us showing up for the primaries. and just not enough people that want to do good, that are taking the swim into politics.

                  Really that’s probably the key problem on the whole. Politics as a whole is a really tough career field to get into, and it’s very analogous to starting a business. You need to spend a ton of money and survive with 100% of your time being devoted to trying to start, with only a possible chance of eventually making money IF you can somehow stay afloat for a year with no income. Which sadly is why it creates this world where 99% of people making it through politics are nepo babies and people who have already sold their loyalty to big money.