You’re making a philosophical argument based on principles, the other person is making a practical argument based on ethics. Neither one of you are even responding to each other.
What do you mean atn ethic decision ? You mean short terme gain ? How is it ethic to encourage the crushing machine to continue it’s crushing ? What would happen if these people just decided to say no. We want real pay or you dress your table alone. The fragile employer would be desperate… The timing is just right for this kind of action. But hey let’s discourage them with doomerisme.
Do you think customers being assholes is a step towards unionization? That you’re making people choose between food and rent out of solidarity with them?
Do you think customer subsiding employer salary is a step in which direction I am curious ? Why not just let it fail instead of counting on people to again, split the loss and the business take the gain, it worked so well the last thousand of time it was done.
Look where we are, people are complaining because other people are not paying a share the employer should have paid…
Nah, fuck tipping. Pay a livable wage.
Not tipping doesn’t help us get there, it just means some server worked and didn’t get paid.
If they don’t get paid why work for these greedy bastard ?
They usually do get paid. Not paying them until they can’t make rent and quit doesn’t result in the owner paying a living wage.
Yeah, as long ng as the owner can find people to exploit. Again the solution is solidarity against the exploiters… Whichever form is chosen.
You’re making a philosophical argument based on principles, the other person is making a practical argument based on ethics. Neither one of you are even responding to each other.
What do you mean atn ethic decision ? You mean short terme gain ? How is it ethic to encourage the crushing machine to continue it’s crushing ? What would happen if these people just decided to say no. We want real pay or you dress your table alone. The fragile employer would be desperate… The timing is just right for this kind of action. But hey let’s discourage them with doomerisme.
Depriving workers of wages isn’t solidarity, you’re just being an asshole individually.
It has to start somewhere.
I know you’re basically allergic to them, but have you heard about unions?
Don’t eat at restaurants that exploit their workers?
Do you think customers being assholes is a step towards unionization? That you’re making people choose between food and rent out of solidarity with them?
Do you think customer subsiding employer salary is a step in which direction I am curious ? Why not just let it fail instead of counting on people to again, split the loss and the business take the gain, it worked so well the last thousand of time it was done. Look where we are, people are complaining because other people are not paying a share the employer should have paid…
Do you think employers actually paying wage is a step anywhere at all in the process? No? Ok cool bub