Would it not be the equivalent of a what supremacist gang get into the army and get trained and do a couple tours here and there. Comeback home and all go to Canada and pull off a deadly attack? Should the US be blamed for training the group that messed up Canada? Or does the US get a pass because we are a hegemony?
America does give military training to white supremacists and gang members. They then usually attack Americans, though. Some reports hold, in fact, they put one such individual in charge of the Department of War.
Does most of the US blame Saudi Arabia for the attack? I’ve never heard anyone make that claim, let alone MOST people.
Right wingers do, everyone else blames Bush lol
A good part of the right-wing anti-muslim bigots in our country blame the kingdom of Saudi Arabia for what a criminal group led by a (distant) cousin of the king did.
Most Americans were 13 or younger when 9/11 happened, and only know what their parents, schools, and friends said.
Most Americans were 13 or younger when 9/11 happened
And this is the most painful thing I’ve read today.
Little while ago Saudi Arabia invited a bunch of comics over and alot of people were calling them sellouts and why would they do that for a country that trained people who commited 9/11. I can get a list if you want?
That was more about Mohammad “Bone Saw” Bin Salman’s attacks on the free press, although given the fact that Saudi terrorists, commissioned by a Saudi leader (Bin Laden) trained in Saudi Arabia were the actual culprits of 9/11, it’s really hard to not consider the Saudi people at least somewhat culpable for fomenting extremism.
Not picking a fight but if that’s true then shouldn’t the equivalent be given to the US? Or other countries?
To the rest of the world, it is looked at that way. The only reason the US doesn’t consider their crimes “Their Fault” is the general sense of “American Exceptionalism” that saturates their cultural perception. You think the rest of the world doesn’t remember Haiti? Or Guatemala? Or the Philippines? Or the Alaskan Panhandle Incident? Do you think we’ve forgiven China for Tibet or the Uyghur genocide in Turkmenistan? Or Canada and Australia for their Genocides? The Germans still walk around starting every conversation with outsiders saying “Hi, yes I’m German, and we’re very sorry.” or something equivalent.
I have no doubt that there are ignorant assholes out there, and the reason they believe that is because racism. But I don’t think they are anywhere close to being the majority.
What about Marc Maron, Pete Davidson (he gets an asterick) , Shane Gillis I can go on. Alot of people spoke out against them after the 911 Report came out. And going out on a limb here probably all of the south who are somewhat educated.
probably all of the south who are somewhat educated.
That IS going out on a limb.
Would it not be the equivalent of a what supremacist gang get into the army and get trained and do a couple tours here and there. Comeback home and all go to Canada and pull off a deadly attack? Should the US be blamed for training the group that messed up Canada? Or does the US get a pass because we are a hegemony?
Oh, and this? This would absolutely an American attack on an ally. The fact it’s not officially commissioned by the DoD does not in any way absolve America more broadly of the crimes of the terrorists they produce.
Al-Qaeda trained in Afghanistan, Sudan, and had ties to people in Pakistan. 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, although 3 of the 4 pilots (who were the leaders and apparently the only ones who knew the plan was a suicide mission) were not Saudi; those were from Egypt, UAE, and Lebanon.
In the immediate aftermath, as details first came out about the identities of the hijackers, there was a lot of anger towards Muslims in general and Saudis in particular, especially after it became public that the Bush administration had allowed several members of the Saudi royal family to fly out of the US while all US airspace was supposed to be closed. In the intervening years, whether because of active rehabilitation efforts by the Saudis or by wider acceptance of Al-Qaeda as a pan-Arab organization, I feel like that anti-Saudi sentiment has cooled.
15 of the 19 attackers were citizens of Saudi Arabia, and I was pretty sure their training for the attack was in Afghanistan. The US used the horror of the attack to invade Iraq, which had nothing to do with the attacks.
People pointing out the citizenship of the majority of the attackers isn’t blaming the country of Saudi Arabia, it is highlighting that the official narrative to justify invading Iraq was bullshit.
Iraq war had worse consequences than it should have.
There’s more to it than training
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Ah another follower that’s sweet. Welcome aboard.
Saudi’s
Saudis
yea i know it was spell check for some stupid ass reason.
Pro Tip: When you are wanting to ask a Why question, its a good practice to make sure the What part is accurate. Especially when it includes a broad generalization. Have a blessed day!
