• cub Gucci@lemmy.today
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    Gates also testified that he never witnessed any criminal conduct from Epstein. He accused Epstein of blackmailing him over his extramarital affairs.

    Behold, Homo Billionaries

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    Gates hired Jake Greenberg, who was the oversight panel’s chief investigative official until December, to help him prepare for the appearance, the New York Times reported on Tuesday. A committee spokesperson told Reuters the panel has not worked ​with Greenberg since his departure.

    How is this allowed

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    Yeah, Mr Mossad was getting blackmail on the American elite so they would do their bidding.

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      We already knew that though.

      At this rate we will discover at some time in 2027 that Epstein is dead.

      They’re slow walking this. Classic Trump legal strategy.

      He’s not going to face justice. Its sickening that he’s lied, stolen, and raped kids and others his whole life and been promoted to King of the world as the result, but thats just how it is.

      At least after he’s dead he will become the distraction for who ever replaces him, so his legacy will be torn to shreds.

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      People are shitting on Gates and that’s appropriate and all, but the subtext here is really important. Epstein and his circle went after powerful people through blackmail and the influence extends really far. And there’s a person sitting at the head of the White House who’s name appears a fuckton of times in the Epstein files. The whole thing needs to be blown wide open and there’s obviously a lot of people in powerful positions who don’t want that to happen because things about them will get out.

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        We already know the subtext though. That’s the thing the entire pizza gate saga was essentially a fake version of what’s been happening since at least the 1960s with Israeli intelligence.

        Epstein, like his many bosses and colleagues still operating, helped traffic children, matched powerful people with children (sometimes adults), all to ensure their absolute loyalty to whatever group is actually in charge of both the CIA and Israeli intelligence agencies.

        If you’re not with them, you’re against them, so they’ll either make sure you stay with them, or they’ll just kill you (JFK).

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            absolute loyalty to whatever group is actually in charge of both the CIA and Israeli intelligence agencies.

            I did address that. Or, in other words, the capital class which acts as a single distinct entity in most things, and uses tactics like this to ensure a lack of in-fighting.

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              So Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed politicians to ensure their absolute loyalty to the “capitalist class” which is also in charge of mossad and the cia? How do you explain the existence of other capitalist states whose politicians don’t diddle kids? Or do you think they all do it secretly? How do you explain the existence and perseverance of capitalism before 1945?

              Don’t you think that a salary upwards of $10000/mo plus various lucrative side-hustles and job opportunities from lobbyism and political favors paired with the never ending nationalist propaganda about how capitalism and liberal democracy are the ideal and most fair way to organize humanity is enough to ensure these people’s loyalty?

              The vagueness of your critique of capitalism and your talk about a specific group of people pulling the strings of the rulers of society and secret services, unintentionally or not, comes off kind of antisemitic and incoherent in my opinion. (And no, I am not a Zionist or in any way foster a single positive thought about the existence of the state of israel.)

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          There is nothing to indicate that Bill Gates isn’t telling the truth. Maybe not the whole truth. But no doubt Epsteins main business was to create compromats.

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              Sorry that’s a fairly simple view of reality.

              People convince others of fallacies without lying all the time.

              You can absolutely tell the truth while presenting a fiction.

              The only question here, which we will likely never know, is the extent to which this testimony is an objective, balanced recount of the circumstances.

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    So we now have clear evidence this is what everybody with a brain thought it was. All that’s left is to apply that reasoning to the dog that hasn’t barked.

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    Gate claimed “visiting” Epstein was a big mistake. If he only visited, then he couldn’t be blackmailed. Blackmail means he was shagging underage girls and there’s evidence in the Epstein files.

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      Blackmail means he was shagging underage girls and there’s evidence in the Epstein files.

      I mean, it’s not fully guaranteed, Fact is shagging adult women is still a compromising event for a married billionaire, and Epstein didn’t EXCLUSIVELY traffic underage women.

      That isn’t a proof that gates didn’t shag underaged women, but currently the only thing we have evidence to point to is Epstein planning to blackmail him over spiking STD medications to his wife from a disease caught from “russian girls”.

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      Elstein was a paedophile and he enabled paedophiles, but that’s not all he was. What he was was a fixer. He wasn’t a “I can get you a 12 year-old by noon”, he was a “I can get you whatever you want (including 12 year-olds) by noon”

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        Exactly. If what Gates wanted was a couple of 30 year old women who were dtf and a couple lines of coke with some mdma over a nice ocean view then Epstien could have that tomorrow and be asking yacht or island. But it comes with both all the privacy he could use to threaten with and an expectation that he can call in favors and connections too. And suddenly in exchange for being set up a man who pimps children has dirt on you, connections to you, and you owe him a bit.

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      Maybe I misread the article, but it seems they assisted gates with getting in touch with women to have an affair with. It has been said before he had affairs with Russian prostitutes so I imagine that’s what this is vs with children. Even Epstein would prefer to blackmail him with being a pedo, I bet he was happy enough to get such a powerful person blackmailed with anything.

      Another reason I believe it wasn’t pedophilia that gates was involved in is because he’d be lying to Congress about this, a felony. If they have evidence of gates lying, he’d still be known as a pedo, and ending up a criminal as well.

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        Even Epstein would prefer to blackmail him with being a pedo, I bet he was happy enough to get such a powerful person blackmailed with anything.

        I mean not necesserally, I do agree, we have no evidence, and Epstein certainly had his hands in enough crime, an affair alone would have been enough of a problem for a billionaire with a wife. That being said I’d also say… for Epstein to do blackmail using the underaged women seems… more complicated. IE how do you blackmail someone for a crime that you were also a part of. How do you follow through on that blackmail without also collapsing the rest of the operation.

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    Oh, another Epstein “victim”.

    Fuck you, Bill. Epstein never forced a billionaire into anything, they all walked into the trap willingly.

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      I’m not saying Gates was a “victim”, but it seems silly to ignore the role blackmail played in Epstein’s operations.

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        You’re absolutely right, but I think some of us are worried about losing sight of how he managed to rule via blackmail: he blackmailed incredibly shitty people who did incredibly shitty things. Epstein was a monster of a human whose own proclivities will haunt most of our nightmares for the rest of our lives, but we shouldn’t forget that he didn’t coerce the people he blackmailed. Sure, he enabled and catered to them, but these people already had their own horrifying habits that they thought (probably correctly) they were rich or powerful enough to practice with impunity.

        I know you already said that you’re not calling Gates a victim. But also, focusing too hard on a (made up) quote like “Epstein blackmailed me into 90% of the crimes I committed,” runs the risk of a large portion of the population forgetting that 10% of those crimes were catered by requesting using resources from other people Epstein blackmailed because they also wanted to do some shit that was so fucked up that only someone like Epstein could make it happen quickly, quietly, and conveniently.

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        Multiple things can be true at once. He was a victim of blackmail because he was guilty of whatever the fuck was going on at pedo island.

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          It does seem here like he’s openly admitting he had multiple affairs, isn’t particularly trying to hide it

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          I think a lot of people were pressured into participating at pedo Island because of existing blackmail, which generated more powerful blackmail. Using blackmail leverage to create more blackmail leverage is like blackmail 101.

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            Correct - but he should still be held accountable for things like fucking children even if he did so under the threat of some other embarrassing info going public.

            Blackmail only works when the one being blackmailed digs their own grave with a pattern of failing to do what they should do every step of the way.

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              Oh I never said he shouldn’t be held accountable. I’m just saying there was almost certainly a pipeline of small steps to being fully implicated. There were definitely people who got involved with Epstein because he was a power broker that had his fingers in a lot of pies, and by the time they were past the point of no return it was too late.

              Not saying that’s the case with Gates, but it’s important to recognize that part.

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      I would be prepared to see a lot more of this over the next few months, they know they can’t not release shit forever so they’re letting the biggest players get their ducks in a row first.

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    Just to be clear this is not Trump testifing under oath. Not Epstein. Not Maxwell.

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      Yep only people who don’t fall in line with the current regime. Fuck Gates and I’m glad to see any of these monster prosecuted but there are bigger fish they should’ve started with.

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        Gates is a piece of shit and I’m glad the ghoul is getting put to the coals but a lot of republicans see him as one of the biggest villains in the context of Epstein, this is to placate them and nothing more, I honestly hope he’s still got the guile he used in the 90s and sells everyone else out once he knows he’s fucked.

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    No testimony from Shill Gates is enough to make me respect him or Microslop ever again. May he forever have to cover his drinks at social gatherings if he isn’t shunned from society after all is said and done.

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      Ever again? You respected him or Microsoft at some point? Why?

      Little shit learned to code by reading other peoples code out of the trash then immediately tried to cut off sharing code. Fuck that guy.

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        Good to know. I only respected him cause I had no idea he was a pedophile, or a shit cheater of a coder, and because his foundation provided college scholarships.

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          I respected his wife. Melinda. Not perfect, but she effectively strong armed him into pouring billions into the Gates foundation.

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            Makes sense. She definitely wears the pants in the relationship.

            Can’t believe Bill the Shill tried to drug her drink with an HIV-prevention pill because he likely caught HIV from having sex with those children and didn’t bother telling her.