• Heikki2@lemmy.world
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    I recall at previous job I worked, an old guy bought a giant truck, I think it was a GMC 6500. I’m between 6’1" to 6’3", depending on which gas station I’m leaving. I could easily walk under the side mirrors.

    He worked second shift. I’d see it in the lot when i was leaving and it’d be gone when I arrived in the morning. I noticed in the morning, the truck was sitting in 1 spot for about 2 weeks before I asked around.Apparently the hurt himself while leaving one late night. He was climbing in and fell out backwards. I think it sat in one spot for another 6 weeks before someone finally came and got. It was an obnoxiously large truck

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    what im even more sick of is smaller (normal) sized trucks that people just decide to park across two spots anyway. like who the hell do they think they are

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    It’s another symptom of the infinite growth mindset that is not only plaguing boardrooms but average citizens.

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    I blame the truck manufacturers more than the poor, deluded shlubs who buy them. There used to be standards in the industry but “big” costs more so they make more money (initially…while pricing a whole class of citizens out of the market).

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      I am right there with you. I’m not super big on blaming individuals for stuff like this. I saw an old Tacoma parked next to one of these monsters the other day and I was like, holy smokes, the size is just out of control.

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        There’s someone with a new Tacoma on my campus and even that fucking thing has a front hood higher than my sedan’s roof.

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      A truck is only slightly more expensive to produce than a sedan when all costs are taken into account, but can be sold at a higher price.

      The main difference between a truck and a sedan is a few hundred pounds of metal. Both have the same cost in labour to manufacture, as well as equivalent R&D cost. In some cases, trucks have lower R&D because they aren’t expected to change as much from year to year, so the engineering cost of re-designing parts/panels/etc. just isn’t there.

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      In 2012 the federal fuel economy standards were changed to no longer consider the classification of vehicle, but just its footprint. So suddenly a Corolla had less-strict fuel economy requirements than a small truck.

      So the Ranger, Dakota, S-10, etc were all discontinued, and manufacturers learned that the easiest way to meet fuel economy standards was to make the vehicles bigger every time the requirements increase.

      It’s also why around 2022, every small cargo van (NV200, Transit Express, ProMaster City) stopped being produced. It’s also why the Maverick has the “standard” model as the hybrid while the one you can actually find at the dealers is the “upgrade” traditional engine.

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        Regulation (in a way) is exactly how we got into this situation. CAFE was meant to enforce emissions standards, but the way it was written meant that making a bigger vehicle resulted in a lower fuel economy requirement. The Chicken Tax essentially stopped foreign trucks from being able to compete in the US market, which meant that Ford/GM/Dodge got to create an oligopoly.

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          regulation only works if the laws are not written by the companies that are being regulated

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      I blame both considering how often I see people brag about how big their trucks are. Motherfucker you’ve got a short bed and extended cabin, and you’re out here talking about an engine like you need to be able to go 90 while hauling an oversized trailer.

      Sure you can’t buy a small truck anymore, and it’s getting harder to buy compact cars, subcompacts, and even full sized sedans, but it’s not like all trucks sold today are that big.

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        “wHy MuH gAs So ExPeNsIvE?”

        Dawg, you’re driving around a tank, that’s why. And you’re not impressing anyone else except other chuds.

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      Well not only “big = more expensive” the larger engines also have lower efficiency requirements. It’s much easier to make cars bigger and more “chugging” because they don’t have to meet the efficiency standards and because it’s bigger they can charge more.

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    Can be fixed with an angle grinder. Put the parts that are in the way on the back, and it’s flush with the length.

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    What is even the point of these, from what i seen the truck bed does not seem that much bigger if at all then a normal pickup truck?

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      The beds of pickup trucks are largely vestigial, they’re designed as crew plus trailer haulers. A truck like that will be advertised pulling a yacht on a trailer over the Rockies. It’s got enough bed to put a gooseneck hitch in. A van or SUV will keep up with a pickup with a Class IV hitch, but a pickup truck is a miniature tractor trailer now.

      Using the bed as a bulk cargo box is actually pretty rare these days.

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      It’s a 5 seat sedan with a bed they don’t use. the point is they want to look mean

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      Big diesel crew cab rigs are for towing trailers while hauling a crew. Think land scaping, construction etc.not too useful for the average joe using it as a Honda civic but for the right business they are exactly what you need.

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        I’d personally hate to use one of these for any of those jobs, I’d need a ladder to get the fucking ladder out of the bed. Ignore me, I’m just getting old and confused as to why the truck keeps getting bigger, but the bed keeps getting smaller. Even a shitbox from 1995 has a full 8 foot bed but for some damn reason, now they are almost impossible to find.

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          I like that GM brought back the Avalanche’s midgate for their electric Silverado, but I wish that was available on more trucks. Default configuration is a short-bed family hauler, but you drop the midgate and it becomes a 2-seater with an 8’ bed.

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          Best truck I ever worked out of was a long box regular cab s10 lol. Drop the tail gate down and u only have to lift crap somewhere between your knees and hips to load it, these big short bed trucks I have to hoist stuff up about chest high to load it then I’m out of room in no time because the beds like 4 feet long LOL. Usually those big trucks are for towing stuff and putting a couple pack outs in the trunk (bed would be too generous). Quite frankly if u don’t need a goose neck a 2500 van is probably the ticket, can tow about the same as a 2500 truck but u have a useful covered cargo area that’s easy to load and more secure.

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        Even then, most companies would be better off running 2 trucks and sets of equipment rather than 1 big truck hauling everyone and everything. It would cost a bit more than one big truck but significantly improve operational flexibility.

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          It would be more than a “bit” more. There would be the purchase price of 2 trucks, license fees for plates, commercial insurance for 2 trucks, 2 trailers, and maintenance for 2 trucks and trailers. And it would be silly for just one crew of 3 or 4 people, which most small contractors are. So unless you have a real need to own multiples and have multiple crews all working at the same time, doubling your equipment always costs more.

          But for 2-man crews, there is no reason for a crew cab, and you don’t see them as a rule.

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            Yes, but a genuine light, single cab truck is significantly cheaper than the crew cab super duty, especially once you account for fuel economy and maintenance. Its like spending more up front for a more effecient appliance. You end up saving in the long run despite more cost up front.

            You also have better operational flexibility. One truck could take off with 2 crew members to another jobsite once the bulk of the work or certain equipment is finished at the first job site. You could also position the trucks and equipment at different locations on a large multi acre property.

            Under most circumstances, 2 light trucks makes more sense than 1 super duty.

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          It’s more likely that a company will get a van or cube/box truck (think U-haul), that has all the equipment and stuff, and the rest of the workers just take their own transportation to the job site. Virtually any time I’ve seen a company-owned pickup that wasn’t kitted out for a task, it was for the boss.

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            Thats common if its something they don’t do often or are using equipment they rented. Landscapers, independent home builders, and other certain trades often have their own equipment and trucks/trailers to haul it.

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      The bed is like the truck balls, it’s only there for manly affirmation, but really serves no practical purpose.

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        In the south, trucks like that are practically a status symbol. Lift kit, knotted tires (bald within a year because they only drive it on paved roads), expensive ass brush guard with a winch that’s never been used, spray in bedliner with big diamond plate bed box, pristine multi-trailer hitch, Yeti/Browning/fjb/FAFO/tbl/wE tHe PeOpLe decal on the window along with whatever big football college they never went to…

        The most they’ve ever hauled in it is groceries, and the dirtiest it ever gets is when it rains. If any mud get on it for any reason they leave it on for as long as possible

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        I agree in 90 percent of cases but I have one with a fucked up bed and it’s only six months old. I use it every other day to do deliveries.

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      normally youd get more torque because its a bigger engine but this dudes truck in the city so theres actually no point but the point is so you can pull stuff out of mud or tow your tractor or somthin on your farm

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    Seen one recently. Don’t know how it is in Americas, but for the rest of the world this is unnecessarily, stupidly, obscenely big. It doesn’t fit anywhere, it consumes fuel in barrels, visibility is near zero, the pickup format is extremely impractical for everyday use. This is a climate-churning, people-pressing machine that makes 0 sense.

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      I think you can trace a lot of these problems back to legislation and the classification of work vehicles which receive bigger tax/incentives and going bigger and bigger is continually more beneficial to car manufacturers as increasing the size and cost of the standard car is their way of profit growth. Unfortunately this comes at the cost of safety, road conditions, infrastructure space/costs, the environment and consumer costs.

      Climate town has an excellent video where they explain how the American SUV became so dominant and pushed this kind of thinking from car manufactures practically all because Jeep was failing and lobbied to change the laws so they could sell cars (obviously a huge oversimplification)

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      All of those things are true in the US. It is just somehow culturally acceptable here that a third of the cars commuting to the office or stopping at the grocery store are giant trucks that should be commercial vehicles.

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      I saw a lifted oversized pickup in my town in the UK. It was hilarious. Like this one it was long, way bigger than those big Fords which are becoming more common here. And lifted. It also made a big brrr noise.

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        Eh, unless you need to haul heavy equipment. Damn, Lemmy is worse than Reddit when it comes to these things.

        Not sure if it’s mostly kids or just naive adults.

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          Not just Americans haul large things, yet you don’t see these monstrosities in Asia, Africa, South America or Europe. Don’t know about Australia, never been there. Other countries just use lorries of any size. Americans use these micropenis compensators for shopping carts. Also, in the 80’s and 90’s pickup trucks were much smaller yet the bed size wasn’t much different. So why have it this enormous when there’s no benifit to it, other than an ego boost? It’s just so fucking dumb.

          Not sure if it’s mostly kids or just naive adults.

          Right back at ya mate.

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          Yeah the real point is that the vehicle you haul your dirt bikes in and the vehicle you park at the airport are ideally different, but it’s very understandable that they aren’t. Also I’m certain that truck isn’t backed in all the way. It’s stupid big, but not 2x longer than the space big.

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            Yeah. I think inconsiderate usage of them are the bigger problem…

            Also, people that have these trucks, never use them to haul shit, lift them up and put low profile large rims on…deserve every bit of hate.

            Driving them around unloaded is a terrible experience. The suspension is designed with a minimum load in mind. Without this preload the whole thing is significantly over-sprung and a terrible ride.

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          A bunch of people have these in my apartment building, I assure you they never haul anything except maybe 3 cases of water bottles. People are morons buying these as daily drivers to the office.

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      Does the rest of the world never need to move around equipment or trailers? In America these are every bit as useful as whatever country your from lol. Most of the time people here use them as daily drivers which is obscene but if it’s a business truck a big diesel can be more than necessary. A gas 4 cyl Tacoma is NOT pulling near half what a 2 ton chassy with a diesel V8 can

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        When normal people need to move stuff, they attach a trailer to their normal-sized car.

        Even the car in the foreground is considered large in my country.

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          Normal people don’t need to haul over 30k lbs on a regular basis. Businesses sometimes do! These vehicles are not supposed to be daily drivers their supposed to be work horses. A 2 ton diesel chassy is made for hauling big loads, and if you don’t need to haul big loads you don’t need one simple as that! Really the only “regular people” I can fathom owning a rig like that are farmers otherwise they really are only useful in construction and other contracting gigs that require lots of equipment hauling to job sites, or in the case of where I work the need to haul multiple vehicles on a gooseneck at a time.

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            Yes, and businesses have business vehicles with cheaper taxes, which cannot be used privately. Small/solo businesses can be partly exempted from this.

            The size of that thing is completely ridiculous and would be a major nuisance/hazard, to drive around in a city

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              Not to mention a lot of these new trucks of that stature have WORSE visibility than a semi truck! You could run over a group of children in a cross walk and have no idea 😳 it is honestly surprising there’s not more licencing for driving a vehicle larger than x size. Hell any moron with a regular driver’s licence can get behind the wheel of a RV that’s 40 feet long, and one fuck up in a vehicle that weighs that much can cause a LOT of damage.

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        Yes the rest of the world needs to move around equipment and trailers. And they can do it without obscene trucks like this lol.

        What makes America so incompetent that they need a truck like this to do it?

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          Right so what do they use in the rest of the world to tow a skid steer + equipment or multi car good neck haulers or anything in that 30k+ lb payload? A gas 4 cyl Tacoma isn’t going to cut it. Neither will a V8 or V8 half ton truck. Do they just hire out tractors to do that kind of payload hauling? At work we somewhat regularly have to pull 20+k lbs so we have a big crew cab long box cummings to haul shit like that. Thing is a country mile long but it stays in its parking spot unless it’s getting a trailer hooked to it. If that seems excessive what vehicle do you recommend it gets replaced with? And don’t limit yourself to us mkt I’m genuinely curious !

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            You’re listing specific examples that literally no one has a problem with. Yes, if you’re moving large equipment you need a large tool to do so. The general public doesn’t do this, like… Ever. The dude in the photo has almost certainly never towed anything with it. These kinds of vehicles serve a purpose, but the vast majority of them are sold to people who will NEVER use it for that purpose, who just take up excess room in lots and on the streets, rolling around with visibility that makes a fucking TANK look like it’s got a clear line of sight.

            There’s a whole host of political and cultural reasons that these vehicles are as popular as they are. Almost none of it is actual, practical requirement. No one cares about the worker using the tool to do a job, we’re pissed at the pavement princesses who drive around like they own the place without doing an honest day’s work in their lives. Hope that cleared some of the confusion up.

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              Fair enough. There isn’t much more frustrating than going to the regional transfer station in my little 5 speed hatch back and throwing out a load of trash every bit as large as the 3/4 ton big boy toy next to me LOL. For what it’s worth at least in my state anything over 10k lbs has a significantly higher annual tax rate and their paying for their stupidity with 6$ a gal diesel rn. I just felt as though some were bashing trucks like these for existing as if there isn’t legitimate use cases for them, although if I had to hazzard a guess maybe 1/3 of units sold actually get used for anything a civic couldn’t fulfil and thsts probably being generous.

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                That’s fair. I think a lot of us have been conditioned to see these giant trucks as primarily daily drivers that best case scenario are occasionally an overpowered tool for an occasional hobby such as dragging around a camper once a year or grabbing some building supplies that people back in the day absolutely used a Tacoma or an suv for. If I see a pro grade pickup truck doing professional stuff I see it as a work tool, but if I see one in the parking lot of my way into work I see it as being driven by a tool.

                And yeah I’m just sick of being surrounded by large pro grade vehicles being used in contexts where they’re not needed and are impeding on everyone else’s space and visibility.

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            Anything too big for an SUV typically goes on a transport designed to haul large loads. Goose necks for pick up trucks are mostly a north american thing.

            The example you bring up also mentions how that truck is just for work, which isn’t really the problem. The problem is when the boss decides to drive that massive truck everywhere because his ego is so big he thinks hes needs the truck to go anywhere.

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              No kidding! Do contractors in your country own their own equipment or is that a more common thing in USA? We have equipment rental places in the USA but I feel like any business that uses machines regularly ends up owning them. Feel like it would be weird to own equipment and have no way of transporting it LOL

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                I’m in Canada so I’m very familiar with contractors owning goose necks and large trucks, it just doesn’t work like that everywhere in the world. The more remote/small the community, the more it makes sense for small owner/operators to be able to haul their own equipment.

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      Id say the pickup is just fine. Its these borderline semi trucks that are not. Ill take an old nissan or toyota truck any day and it’ll do what i need it for. This is just a “big” dick truck.

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        have had my taco for 18 years and parts availability is starting to be an egg hunt, but i aint trashing it just yet. ive done as much or more work with mini me, than any coca cola cowboy

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      Trucks are driven by trades people.

      They have the luxury of passing the cost of things like gas on to the customer by simply raising their price.

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          That’s a just normal f250

          Doesn’t even have fancy rims or tires

          If you have to haul any trailer or equipment yes you drive one of these or similar

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              Maybe if you’re a painter and all you need is a ladder or two

              Any framer needs a trailer full of tools… or you need to haul a bobcat in a dump trailer… or any of the exterior trades that need scaffolding an planks and multiple ladders etc, plus hauling materials

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                If you need to haul extremely heavy stuff than you should be using that truck for work and only work. There’s no good reason to be driving a massive truck like that around to do stuff everyone else does with a normal car. Unless you’re in a rural area, no one driving a normal car wants be around your hog, especially in the cities where space is much tighter. And clearly OPs image is an urban area cause there wouldn’t be a parking ramp otherwise.

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                  There is no law against driving a normal truck like that to the mall or anywhere for that matter

                  Everyone needs groceries and new socks from the mall

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    My neighbour used to park his truck sticking way out like that, but it wasn’t all the way back in the spot.

    I left a note on it saying: “It’s not as big as you think it is, you have to put it all the way in.”

    From then on it was parked properly.