• nymnympseudonym@piefed.social
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    they load some resource via the clearnet

    That means going through an exit node, which knows the clearnet address but not your IP address. Again that’s the point of the design.

    or WebRTC

    Then you didn’t have ‘Safest’ mode enabled

    one of the several other methods to squeeze an IP out of a browser

    1. Those are called bugs and they do happen but the question is who is attacking you. Assuming you are fully up to date, they are burning an 0day to do so.

    2. That’s why solutions like Tails, Whonix, and Qubes exist. Even if the browser is compromised, those OSes guard you against leakage.

    Q: What did Snowden use to walk out of NSA with gigabytes of national secrets?

    A: Tails on a USB stick (hidden in a Rubiks cube)

    EDIT: Oh yeah. Streaming videos over Tor literally cannot be done without giving up your anonymity. So no those sites won’t work the way you want them to. You can still download MP4s off PornHub and XVideos though. I have… tested this.

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      I think we’re somewhat on the same page here.

      That means going through an exit node […]

      I2P doesn’t have exit nodes. Once you load content from outside the network, that won’t be via I2P, only chance is to get it directly via another connection. For example your default internet connection. So either the browser or operating system is configured to block that. Or you’ll leak your IP.

      Then you didn’t have ‘Safest’ mode enabled

      Yeah, that’s why I said, use a dedicated browser for that. Something preconfigured to not allow any of that.
      Yet better: Use Tails like recommended by Snowden.

      Those are called bugs and they do happen […]

      I’m not so sure about this… Is “safest” mode really all you need? And does it reliably deal with 100% of the attack vectors? Last time I tried it wasn’t too good for example against browser fingerprinting (which doesn’t reveal an IP, but might be bad as well). And there’s a million ways from WebRTC, to trying to get the IPv6 address if all you did is configure an IPv4 proxy, DNS leaks, browser plugins, the webfont system does a lot of weird things, all the things done to do multimedia are very complex and might offer side-channels, I recently learned how to extract some information with CSS alone, no JS needed… Does “safest” really do a 100% job? I mean what I’ve done until now is to discourage people to mess with their browser settings themselves because it’s (a) easy to make mistakes or miss something, and (b) I wasn’t sure if that setting even does all the heavy-lifting without going into detail with all the other changes for example TOR browser bundle has?!

      I’d need to look it up but I think there’s a lot of opportunity without resorting to 0-days.

      EDIT […]

      Yeah, I think that’s why good (and easy to use) pron sites you’d “recommend to people” aren’t really a thing on there.

      And there’s the other thing that horny people might just click “allow” on something, because their brain is currently not in logical thinking mode.

      • nymnympseudonym@piefed.social
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        Yeah, we’re on the same page (and probably approximate darknet-fu level)

        people might just click “allow” on something

        They do this even while not hind-brain-horny. Which is why defense in depth is good. From the network to the browser to the OS to the firmware to the hardware. Amen.