Israeli forces have killed a Palestinian couple and two of their children as they drove in the occupied West Bank, according to the Palestinian health authorities, with the Israeli military saying the incident is under review.

Ali Khaled Bani Odeh, 37, his 35-year-old wife Waad, and two of their children – Mohammad and Othman, aged five and seven, respectively – were shot in the head in the village of Tammun on Sunday. Two of their other children were wounded by shrapnel, according to Palestinian health authorities.

Speaking to the Reuters news agency at the hospital, Khaled, 12, one of the two surviving boys, said he heard his mother crying, his father praying, but no voice of any of his other brothers before silence prevailed after shots sprayed the car.

“We came under direct fire; we didn’t know the source. Everyone in the car was ⁠martyred, except my brother Mustafa and me,” the boy said.

He said soldiers, who ⁠pulled him out of the vehicle before beating him, shouted: “We killed dogs.”

  • dnub@piefed.social
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    W8 w8 w8… I’m just in favor of going the wood chipper route for the top brass and soldiers who were caught saying things like “we just killed dogs”, see what happens next, i would assume that in general shit behavior from israel would stop. I’m not saying that all the people of Israel should go to the wood chipper, there are plenty of people that protest and are against the current way of Israel government

    plus, you should really come to terms with the idea that some people in the world are really bad and respect nothing but force, putin is one clear example, do you think you can come to terms with him without force? angela merkl serve him and his friends (oligarchs) a full plate by building the pipeline for russian oil/gas to supply central europe, it was the deal of a lifetime, guess what? they accumulated wealth for some years and then shit on the plate and now he’s playing imperialist sending all his people into the meat grinder and now even recruiting foreigners -.-

    also, germans surrendered because hitler committed suicide when his capital was surrounded with no escape and his soldiers were still dying on the streets defending said capital, they didn’t go to the last soldier but got close to it

    we can kid ourselves and think everyone is empathetic and sensible, but unfortunately that’s not the truth, some people are murderers/egomaniacs/warmongers who only understand force… these need the guillotine or wood chipper

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      Yeah, it’s not okay to commit atrocities on war criminals, or any other criminals, either. There are more humane ways to kill people if that’s what is going to be done. Torturing them before or during isn’t necessary or helpful.

      I’m more than okay with using necessary force to deal with bad actors. But do you honestly think if you say to Putin or Netanyahu, “If you don’t stop we’re going to strip you of wealth, power and freedom,” is going to have noticeably less impact than saying, “If you don’t stop we’re going to strip you of wealth, power and freedom, as well as torture you when we kill you?”

      As for the German surrender, 1.5 million Axis soldiers surrendered in a single month before Germany surrendered. 800k German soldiers surrendered in the four months prior to Germany’s surrender. How likely do you think that would have been if word got out (and it would) that surrender led to summary execution, let alone torture?

      Again, I’ve never said force, war, or death aren’t options for dealing with atrocities. I said atrocities shouldn’t be. And atrocities start with dehumanizing your enemies.