Whelp, looks like I’m going to Motorola
Holy Hell!
This definitely will be on my shopping list. At the top. I hope they bring to all devices and not only higher end.
This news aligns quite well with the Levovo T series ThinkPad repairability.
Other major tech companies sail towards more and more closed environments.
Stop, I can only get so erect
It’s nice to get confirmation, though I really can’t believe it had to be said. Sign of the times, I guess.
If they release one with a headphone jack I’m 100% sold.
Please make this the industry expected.
Will banking apps and NFC pay finally work?
Doesn’t that depend on google play services? If so, “probably not, but then again it works currently if you install play services on a separate user profile (or on your main, defeating the purpose of grapheneOS to begin with but more power to you).”
Tell google/banks to stop requiring the spyware, they won’t but at least it’s better then telling the secure OS to install just a little spyware just so you don’t need to carry a wallet.
graphene still sandboxes gplay, even if you use the two profiles for work and home
I think he was saying that installing it on your main user account would be the way that’s pointless.
and i’m saying it’s still sandboxed on the main account leaving a second profile still available for work
I guess I’m confused on how t being sandboxed would stop it from doing it’s tracking thing
it has MUCH less access to your phone on GrapheneOS than stock android and can even be limited to only contexts where its required.
plus Graphene still blocks a lot of the other attack vectors that corporations use to track you like Dynamic Code Loading and Memory Tagging. to say installing google play services to your main profile defeats the purpose of GrapheneOS is to ignore like 80% of what GrapheneOS does and how it installs google play services
It gives you more control over when and what Google can do on the device. If you run Google software with network access you have to assume they can track you, but having it sandboxed minimizes what it can do while running and gives you more control over what it does (e.g. you can deny it network access entirely whenever you want).
It’ll still try, it just wouldn’t have root access. It would just depend on what you allow it access to.
I would still need to be able to use my banking app to check my balance. That’s more than just needing “to carry a wallet.” That’s the difference of more than $450 in mistakes as that’s what happened when i didn’t get a live-update to my account prior to the advent of smartphone banking apps. Fuck 5/3. -a dumpster-fire of a banking organization if i’ve ever seen one.
I would still need to be able to use my banking app to check my balance.
cant you use a web browser for that ltask ? All my banks let me log in via a web browser fir that at least.
Wow! okay, i leaned something new today.
edit I am surprised I never thought of that.
Just take my money!
Oh, they will.
Does anyone know when such devices are expected to hit the market? Within 2 years would be nice
I’m kinda excited for this phone. But I’m unemployed so I probably won’t get it. 😂
Anyone know a release date, I was looking at getting a Pixel for it soon.
Part of their next gen release, so probably 1 year after their most recent refresh cycle
When is it gonna come out?
One of the main thing id size of phones, pixel has a series which are comparitevely smaller but I dont know if Moto has any small phones. If only moto make a small phone too, it will be awesome
They have folding phones that’s are smallish
I’d rather a 6 inches and under small phone than a folderble.
Nah man i am out. Folding phones dont feel practical to me.
Yep, if only these damn manufacturers would actually give a bit of care and cater to our damned needs.
Ultra based Motorola
Yo other companies can you just pretend it is Apple who is doing it so that you will copy this and announce it next day?
Omg omg. What to do. My old Pix does not fit me anymore. For last 2 month I planned to get new Pix 10 XL. And just out of the blue, this. Should I wait another year for a new Moto?! That’s tempting. Although the first gen of new moto devices might be buggy etc.
Moto have been making phones for as long as there has been phones. Software issues would get fixed. I don’t think hardware issues are likely.
The biggest risk is Google being evil and cutting both of them off from the Android source code or refusing to sign the releases. Google already refuse signing releases for GrapheneOS on the pixel.
Google already refuse signing releases for GrapheneOS on the pixel.
Do you mean how you get a special boot screen implying you’re doing something sketchy?
Google signing things is not something we want. We want phones that don’t care if your OS is signed by Google, and banking apps that trust you to pick an OS.
Before it was Pixel, the Nexus phones were sometimes made by Moto. I’d wait. They were great phones, and I’ve used moto on Android recently when the pixel prices went too high for my budget at that time. Was very happy with it, and got a lot of use out of it. I don’t expect buggy when graphene support switches.
Buy a fairphone
Lemme know when fairphone has a re-lockable bootloader to allow for choice of OS.
