You should know this because one of the reasons Trump’s been trying to use to justify this war is that Iran never said they wouldn’t pursue nuclear weapons.

You could say the fatwa is just talk but there’s a strategic argument for Iran to not get nuclear weapons besides the moral case. Iran doesn’t want to get nukes and become a pariah state like North Korea and cut itself off from global trade, they’re a Petro state they need trade. At the same time they don’t want Israel and the US to be able to bomb them with impunity. So their best strategy is to remain close to building a bomb, that way they can get sanctions relief while being able to dash for a bomb and nuclear deterrence in the case of a war.

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    Nukes, I think, are not the reason for this ruthless attack. I just talked about the Ayatollah not wanting to have a Rothschild-run central bank (though the Jesuits run them through the Rothschild family).

    Just like with WMDs, which was found to be Hussein not wanting to be enslaved by a Jesuit financial sector.

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      I strongly doubt this war is about who’s on the board of some state owned financial institute. I mean even if that conspiracy were true, where’s the bombing of like 120 other countries out of the roughly 195 we have on the planet?

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        From what I was reading, only 172 can be safe in this world government structure. Another 21 have got to go (and it looks like Iran might be one of those 21 countries outside of that infrastructure).

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          I watched too much Star Trek when I was young. I think 195 have to go. All humans should unite and reach for the stars, instead of some stupid in-fighting, killing each other, and burning down of wealth because of bigotry.

          (Edit: I live in a big melting pot. I have enough people from Syria, Iran… and “white” people around me. And I can tell you, we all have the same goals in life, we enjoy similar things, are family fathers who all want to see their kids prosper, fight the same struggles in our lives… There’s zero reason to focus on destruction and small-mindedness. We should do better. And invest the same energy into useful things. That goes for the average people. Not the ruling class. Those -of course- are motivated to disunite and stay in business.)

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            The idea of the “melting pot” was created by a Khazar from what I’m aware of (though I could be wrong), and comes from a play that basically calls for this concept to be enforced. That’s why, in 1965, immigration (unlawful invasion) was encouraged by the US government (due to Jesuit deception, which was a thing since they took over the world in 1798).

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              I’m sure we didn’t. We just needed a lot of people to work underground in the coal mines and in the heavy industry, steel etc. And those were labor intensive jobs, so they needed to attract a lot of workforce. In a coordinated effort, sure. But out of economic motivation. These people ended up working hard jobs alongside each other. And they built and shaped the region. Made it rich. And I got born into that kind if place. With some history to it and a bit less ethnic uniform population. But there’s no evidence they read some old scripture from nomadic people and thought yes, that what we need to enforce… Instead people found out there’s a lot of coal underneath their feet. And they found out the more they dig up and sell to other people, the more wealth they get. The workers wanted to have a roof over their heads and something to eat for themselves and their families. I think that’s very straightforward, and my ancestors were clever enough to figure out how trade works, on their own. I’m not aware of any evidence of a different origin story for my region. Sure. Maybe we didn’t invent the word for it. But the motivation and decisions of the feudal lords, company owners and employers, and the government is well documented.

              And concerning America: Isn’t that a melting pot because all the Europeans went there? In order to seek opportunity, or not to die of famine? And some Africans got there as well and we all know how much say they had in that process? I mean obviously North America is a melting pot. Otherwise we’d find Native Americans there and Aboriginal Canadians, not a load of people with European decent. But that doesn’t have anything to do with 1965?