What I care about is people who aren’t trans, trying to erase trans people, by blaming them for the system that oppresses them, whilst letting themselves off the hook for propping up the same system.
Totally understandable that you as a trans woman would need to be vigilant for transphobia. But you find what you look for and right now your transphobia alarm is giving you a false positive here.
Go and re-read the post of the guy you’re defending.
His opening sentence was literally “Being mtf or ftm trans is conforming to gender stereotypes with extra steps”
He is quite openly saying that without gender stereotypes, trans people wouldn’t exist, and that trans people are really just folk who are too caught up in gender stereotypes. He continues to express that opinion even after trans people directly and openly talk about their identity and how it is distinct from stereotypes.
I’ve been having these discussions for a decade or more now. I know red flags, I know dog whistles, and I know why those things are problematic. And to be frank, you don’t.
Believe it or not, you don’t speak for all everyone who isn’t’ cis.
The only person in this conversation trying to speak for all trans people is the person you’re defending
It’s telling that the only fault you see is in the voice of a trans person defending themselves, and not in the voice of the person saying that trans people don’t actually exist, they’re just people confused about stereotypes
Sounds like you care more about having the trans label than people actually being free to express themselves.
What I care about is people who aren’t trans, trying to erase trans people, by blaming them for the system that oppresses them, whilst letting themselves off the hook for propping up the same system.
Totally understandable that you as a trans woman would need to be vigilant for transphobia. But you find what you look for and right now your transphobia alarm is giving you a false positive here.
Cuz that is not what buddy said, at all.
Go and re-read the post of the guy you’re defending.
His opening sentence was literally “Being mtf or ftm trans is conforming to gender stereotypes with extra steps”
He is quite openly saying that without gender stereotypes, trans people wouldn’t exist, and that trans people are really just folk who are too caught up in gender stereotypes. He continues to express that opinion even after trans people directly and openly talk about their identity and how it is distinct from stereotypes.
I’ve been having these discussions for a decade or more now. I know red flags, I know dog whistles, and I know why those things are problematic. And to be frank, you don’t.
Oh I can tell you’ve been looking for transphobia anywhere you can find it for a decade. It’s obvious.
You just keep confirming that you care more about having a label than about people being able to express their gender identity freely.
Believe it or not, you don’t speak for everyone who isn’t cis.
The only person in this conversation trying to speak for all trans people is the person you’re defending
It’s telling that the only fault you see is in the voice of a trans person defending themselves, and not in the voice of the person saying that trans people don’t actually exist, they’re just people confused about stereotypes