Surveillance strategies in the UK and Israel often go global

  • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    So literally everyone in the UK using any website that uses TLS is now a hostile actor?

    Essentially everyone’s a criminal which is a huge boon for the government. They can now get rid of anyone they want at any time, legally.

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      5 hours ago

      That is longstanding, the US and the UK both have been writing laws broadly enough for them to take down anyone for them, or at least charge, we all just trust it won’t be abused, but as we’ve seen with the uk and their bad faith terror designations, that trust is misplaced, and the mask is coming off society. They aren’t pretending anymore, and cynically think “democracy” such as it is, is already dead in all but name, it’s only the citizenry that doesn’t know it yet, and or is contesting it.

    • gtr@programming.dev
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      6 hours ago

      TLS is not typically considered end-to-end encryption. It’s transport encryption.

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        I don’t get it. E2ee is about encryption in transit not encryption at rest. TLS sounds exactly like e2ee

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          E2E is about the sender encrypting, and only the intended receiver decrypting, with nothing in the middle able to read the data.

          TLS is not designed for that, as the server you connect to is not necessarily the intended receiver, yet it can see everything.

          With E2E, you can send data to a server, which is not the intended receiver, and it won’t be able to read it.