• TaterTot@piefed.social
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    Privacy is a fundamental right that protects autonomy, personal dignity, and the freedom to engage with society without fear of judgment or control. It acts as a crucial safeguard against authoritarianism. Without it, every choice we make can be monitored, recorded, and scrutinized by those in power. History shows that surveillance is often used not to protect people, but to label harmless behaviors as suspicious or deviant, creating pretexts for further erosion of rights.

    But beyond its role in protecting civil liberties, privacy is essential for personal growth and mental well-being. We all need space to be ourselves, to practice new skills without perfection, explore interests that might seem uncool or immature, enjoy “guilty pleasure” media, or simply act silly, without worrying about how it will be perceived or used against us. These moments aren’t trivial. They’re where creativity, healing, and self-discovery happen. Privacy gives us room to evolve, to make mistakes, and to be human

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      This! 1000x this! I’ve spent years educating myself on tech, privacy, psychology etc trying to answer this question. The root thoughts are berried so deep it’s hard to find the signal in the noise. I’ve seen more concise explanations similar to yours in the past year than I have in the previous decade. I think the collective consciousness may finally be getting to a place where they’re starting to ask the right questions, and thankfully concise answer like this are imo the right directions to point people.

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        Couldn’t agree more. The rise of digital surveillance has sparked a necessary counterwave, a deeper reexamination of why we valued privacy in the first place.

        And while I’d love to claim credit, it sounds like you and I map have taken a similar deep dive into the topic. I’m really just standing on the shoulders of thinkers who’ve been wrestling with this far longer and more deeply than I have. My response was just an attempt to distill the ideas that resonated most, hopefully with a little clarity.

        Glad it landed.

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      Ok. A counterargument.

      Information wants to be free. And to let it flow freely is the least-effort solution.

      By letting information flow freely we approach a state where everybody knows everything about everything and everybody. This could be pretty great and seems the easy and natural way to go. A kind of superdemocracy. By inhibiting this evolution we create a state of deformity and disease.

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          It’s a figure of speech.

          It means that information propagates extremely easily.

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            It means that information propagates extremely easily.

            Sounds like you’ve just answered your question about why privacy is important.

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        I agree: knowledge should be free. But that doesn’t mean all information, especially private lives and deeply personal details, should be universally accessible.

        People aren’t data packets. The idea that “everyone should know everything about everyone” assumes superhuman recall and universal comfort with exposure, neither of which exist. If we’re talking sci-fi (like the Borg), total transparency works for them because individuality and autonomy is erased. But that doesn’t work for people as we currently exist.

        Here’s the key: privacy doesn’t hinder open information, it enables it. Encryption, VPNs, private browsing, these tools protect your ability to seek and share freely, without fear of surveillance or retaliation. Without privacy, power chills dissent. People stop asking questions.

        So yes, free knowledge matters. But personal lives aren’t public records.
        Privacy isn’t the enemy of openness.
        It’s its best defense.

        Edit: Reworked this to streamline my point. Some of the phrasing no longer matches the quotes you used in your response, the the general points remain the same.

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          But I’m not sure that vision logically extends to all information…

          I see it more as a physical fact. Keeping a secret takes more effort than open communication. Information propagates like a fart.

          assumes both a superhuman capacity for processing information

          Well that would be google. You don’t need to carry the information around with you, you just need to know how to craft the right query.

          and a uniform comfort with exposure,

          It might just be the taboo of the hour too.

          But that comes at the cost of individuality, autonomy, and the very idea of personal…

          That’s a stretch

          Anyway, here’s my key point. Protecting personal privacy doesn’t hinder the free flow of information, it enables it.

          That’s a big stretch. Literally “inhibiting the flow increases the flow”. I mean I see your argument. But the constraining force here isn’t free information, it’s judgement and persecution.

          So I agree, knowledge should be free.

          Mine wasn’t an argument of moral imperative but physics. And fighting physics is exhausting.

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            Edit: I wrote a long rebuttal last night. Wasn’t sober. Woke up, read it, and thought: Ain’t nobody got time for that.

            So instead, just the core point:

            It’s not a stretch to say privacy protects both our legal rights and our willingness to access and share information.

            It is a stretch to claim that not recording and uploading everything I do in private will cause a “state of deformity and disease.”

            That’s not physics. That’s selling data collection as snake oil. It’s an attempt to justify a world view without examining it’s ramifications.

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        Information doesn’t “want to be free” the companies that want my personal habits and interests have invested a whole lot of effort in acquiring it.