• HexParte@lemmy.zip
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    I think Americans also hate America this much.

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    Since there’s an asshole starting shit in these comments: for you guys outside of America, I want one thing to be clear. We do not like having Trump as president. He ran saying he’d bring down costs for poorer families, but instead has ran a straight-up terror campaign.

    The second thing is that America has a two party system. You’ve most likely heard this fact stated, but may not know what it means. America’s politics effectively give you two parties to vote for and anyone running as one of the “other parties” is wholly for posterity to take votes away from one of the two major candidates. This two party system was effectively bought by major corporations like Amazon. Corporations and “Special interest groups” (rich people) are able to lobby (bribe politicians) over-the-board to get what they want.

    The big kicker is gerrymandering: these political leaders who take “lobbying” pick and choose districts. Long-story-short: this is what really decides elections. Instead of these being “squares” of land, lawmakers divvy up their states (our states are as large as European countries in both population and land size; there are 50 not counting all the countries we occupy like Australia or territories like Puerto Rico because they don’t voter) in their own party’s interest.

    There is no way for a new party to rise like any other country in the world because they don’t ever have enough money to out market these two bigger parties. Even our 4 leaders (2 leaders per party per house and senate which are like one parliament based off of population size and one fucked up “equal” one) are chosen based on money.

    Our politicians are corrupt, and they make the rules. There is not a lot Americans can really do, especially with the president having Americans killed. ICE is a para-military force that’s killed more people in 2025 than it had in its entire history; it’s not just the two news sites are reporting. Even our state representatives and senates/houses are afraid. They’re essentially afraid of this becoming Iran.

    And a lot of Americans are prepping to flea. A lot of us have set up dual citizenships.

    It’s not great.

      • metallic_substance@lemmy.world
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        I know your username is a reference to something, but I can’t remember what. I tried googling it and all that comes up is posts by you. Am I going crazy or is it actually a reference?

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          In the podcast/television show Comedy Bang! Bang! there is a running joke that host Scott Aukerman is always misnamed. The names are things like Yacht Rockerman, Hot Saucerman, Shock Jockerman, Stop Clockerman, Shop Talkerman, Flip Flopperman, and so on. They generally rhyme with “Scott Aukerman.”

          Snot Flickerman is definitely inspired by the Aukerman nicknames, although it doesn’t perfectly fit since Flickerman doesn’t rhyme with Aukerman. However, in my own headcanon, Snot Flickerman is an animated, audacious television news anchor voiced by Tom Kenny.

          I hope this illuminates my stupid fucking username.

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            Hey I’ll use this comment; I totally wondered if it was a reference to CBB but there wasn’t really a chance to ask without derailing

            It’s close enough to the gag that I caught it. You did well

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            Oh of course! Thank you so much. I remember now seeing this around the time it came out, but haven’t checked in on CBB in forever

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      Do they hate it enough to do something about the orange child rapist and the enablers that are causing all this?

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        Do I want to die? No.

        Best I can do is wish them death and in the meantime voice my disapproval in peaceful protests and repeatedly demanding more of my representation AND fellow constituents when it comes to enforcing laws.

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        I mean, what do you want us to do about it? What do you think it’s like having said child rapist as your leader when you didn’t vote for him? He has his own military force running around rounding people up and killing others. The news has only just covered 2 of them. 2025 saw more deaths due to ICE than its entire history.

        It’s not the people you should point the finger at either. Do you even know the term “Gerrymandering?” Look it up. These elections are determined 16 years beforehand AND now Trump is trying to rewrite district lines so that Republicans have more districts that are even more partisan. On top of that, he’s threatening voters with violence. He’s already threatened to send military to voting stations.

        On top of all of that, I don’t care what country you’re from, America has a different political system than ANY other country in the world. I don’t think even most Americans understand this. America’s two party system is ruled by money and bribes (we call these brides “lobbying”). Basically, corporations give money or trips or items to judges and politicians to get them to do what they want. And even our 4 party leaders (imagine you have 2 parliaments - one based off of population size for your state, and another where every state gets the same number of votes) are the leaders precisely because they have the most money that can be used for campaign ads. Oh yeah, don’t get me started on insider trading of our politicians. Everything I’ve described in this paragraph is 100% legal.

        I’m not trying to tell people to not vote, but the truth is that in America, the land of the free and the land of democracy, our votes don’t matter, primarily because of the gerrymandering. So when you see Americans saying they’re fed up, don’t act like we aren’t fed up “enough.” We have people dying at protests. Our state level and local governments are looking at what happened in Iran and are waiting for Trump to do the same. He’s basically threatened it if any ICE agent dies.

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          system is ruled by money and bribes

          are the leaders precisely because they have the most money that can be used for campaign ads

          insider trading of our politicians.

          threatening voters with violence.

          people dying at protests.

          Every single point here is also true about my own country, which is nowhere near the US.

          America has a different political system than ANY other country in the world.

          You’ve yet to see the rest of the world.

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            I suppose you’re right that your country is similar or has similarities. I’m not saying that other countries don’t have problems with their own governments or money. But that’s not what I was illustrating here. What I’m illustrating is why the fair elections turn out how they do. Would I say that Russia is less corrupt or less ruled by money? No. Ukrain? Obviously not.

            What I’m illustrating is that America, despite being “the land of the free,” is very much not free. And this idea that all Americans are at fault for Donald being elected isn’t true. About 47% of its population didn’t vote for him (before you say anything I do understand how elections work) and now he is tearing our republic/democracy apart.

            And yes, it always looks from outsider perspectives that Americans are not studied or that we don’t travel or that we don’t pay attention to outside politics. We do. Believe me. So when I say we have a very different political system, I’d argue it’s true. And it’s true for every other country. No political system (or even government) is the same. And we are all just as helpless as each other. Like, in America we don’t have parties sprouting up like Russia, Germany, Australia, etc. we don’t have a dictatorship like Russia, North Korea. We don’t have three separate countries inside of one like the UK - we have over 50. It’s like if the EU was one country.

            So it doesn’t help that you’re assuming I don’t pay attention outside my boarders. We literally just invaded Venezuela and kidnapped their leader (without our congress agreeing to it, which is required by law). America has so much power in world politics. We have military bases spread across the world; it wouldn’t even require us dispatching troops from America to stage a coup in another country. And we’ve already done it or tried to do it: look at the Philippines or Cuba (Bay of Pigs as we call it) or literally anywhere in the Middle East. I would be an idiot to not pay attention. It’s fucking scary.

            And to give you another example, these corporations that I’m talking about don’t just mess with my economy and government. These chip shortages you’re seeing, that’s the companies in my country causing them. China not exporting chips that are used for cars anymore? That’s America’s fault.

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              What I’m illustrating is that America, despite being “the land of the free,” is very much not free.

              It isn’t and never was.

              So it doesn’t help that you’re assuming I don’t pay attention outside my borders.

              No, I didn’t say that. I felt as if you were saying the problems of bribery, corruption, unfair elections, systemic violence by government on its citizens are unique problems of the US government. It isn’t, we have also seen them, and I do sympathise with American people facing these things.

              we are all just as helpless as each other.

              People have power. Even the most oppressed people have fought for themselves, and in many cases, have won.

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          what do you want us to do about it?

          Something. Anything. Because doing almost fucking nothing while saying that you can’t do anything isn’t working, and will bring you back less than nothing.

          Also, haha, don’t try to play yourselves off as the victims here. Your country has had decades to not have a shit voting system or war mongering government/ruling class but time and fucking time again you guys just accept that bullshit with glee.
          Other countries, and the people from those countries that are being hurt and killed, don’t have that ability to vote in your country. They are the real victims in all of this.

          Plus you’ve had centuries of the 2nd amendment, thus giving you the right and ability to rise up against tyrants. Well tyrants are there right now and all the rest of the world is seeing are crickets, tumbleweeds, memes, excuses, and performances. Doing nothing is an affront to all those dead kids in all those school shootings because, for decades and decades, it was "Yeah, those dead kids in those school shootings were unfortunate, but we need our guns in case of {insert bullshit reason here}”. Well in stumbles a bumbling, dementia riddled, pants shitting, orange child raping, corrupt russian stooge of a tyrant and what happens…nothing. Fuck all.

          NO, you don’t get to play the victim.

          You’re silent bystanders at best, NOT victims.
          Maybe I’ll agree that you are traumatised and abused bystanders, but not real victims. No way.

          “People feel threatened, and some are being killed on our streets by our government.”
          So fuck. People are being threatened and killed by your government that are in entirely different streets in entirely different countries. And on the open seas.
          Fucks sake.