There are more than one criteria by which addiction gets defined. One of these absolutely is how often you do something. How it affects you is not the only criteria by which the medical community defines an addiction, albeit one of them.
Heroin Addiction is different to Team Fortress addiction in the same way it is different to Cannabis addiction, they are all unique in how they affect you. The physical and psychological effects of cannabis addiction are going to be different to the ones of heroin and internet addiction.
If they were only defined by how they affect you, like you argue, then every addiction would be a unique type of addiction, which is not how we define them
Again at the core all addiction is psychogical. We don’t differenciate between them on basis of physical effects.
I’m sorry but did you even read my comment? As in the part where I explain there are multiple criterias that define an addiction?
But to take the numbers mentioned in the Post, yes, 16 hours of instagram use are an extremely strong indication of an addiction. If more criteria are fulfilled then it will definetely be diagnosed as an addiction.
Yes I read your comment. So if a man is compelled to murder two hobos a month and can’t break the habit, that would not be a strong indication of an addiction?
I mean I know you asked this as a kind of gotcha, but yes psychologists have long argued that seriel killing can be classified as a behavioral addiction.
Ted Bundy himself said he felt addicted to killing.
I’m not trolling. I’m trying to get you to think about what you’re saying. I’m hoping if you do, you’ll realize that doctors have to base their diagnosis on “I want to stop but I can’t” and that’s all. Unless it’s something like drinking or drugs that can kill you or harm others, they can’t help some one who says they don’t have a problem.
I don’t have to think about what I’m saying because I know that this:
“doctors have to base their diagnosis on “I want to stop but I can’t” and that’s all.”
is not true.
Do you seriously believe psychiatrists only have this one determining factor to decide if someone is addicted to something?
The ICD-11, which is what is relevant where I’m from, states Gaming Addiction as a behavioral addiction for which one diagnostic criteria is preoccupation which is determined by how often you play games.
To be fair the DSM-5(American Psychiatric Association) lists gaming addiction in it’s ‘more research needed’ section and hasn’t yet determined diagnostic criteria for gaming addiction specifically. But it does have the behavioral addiction of gambling, in which preoccupation is also one of these criteria.
I don’t know what else to tell you other than that the information you have or where it comes from is simply not true, I’m sorry.
There are more than one criteria by which addiction gets defined. One of these absolutely is how often you do something. How it affects you is not the only criteria by which the medical community defines an addiction, albeit one of them.
Heroin Addiction is different to Team Fortress addiction in the same way it is different to Cannabis addiction, they are all unique in how they affect you. The physical and psychological effects of cannabis addiction are going to be different to the ones of heroin and internet addiction.
If they were only defined by how they affect you, like you argue, then every addiction would be a unique type of addiction, which is not how we define them
Again at the core all addiction is psychogical. We don’t differenciate between them on basis of physical effects.
So how many hours of TF2 can you play a day before doctors will diagnose you with an addiction? Four, eight, sixteen?
I’m sorry but did you even read my comment? As in the part where I explain there are multiple criterias that define an addiction?
But to take the numbers mentioned in the Post, yes, 16 hours of instagram use are an extremely strong indication of an addiction. If more criteria are fulfilled then it will definetely be diagnosed as an addiction.
Yes I read your comment. So if a man is compelled to murder two hobos a month and can’t break the habit, that would not be a strong indication of an addiction?
I mean I know you asked this as a kind of gotcha, but yes psychologists have long argued that seriel killing can be classified as a behavioral addiction. Ted Bundy himself said he felt addicted to killing.
It’s not a gotcha. It’s more of the Socratic method.
Lol ok. I guess that means you don’t have actual arguments or are just trying to be a troll.
Either way, have a good one.
I’m not trolling. I’m trying to get you to think about what you’re saying. I’m hoping if you do, you’ll realize that doctors have to base their diagnosis on “I want to stop but I can’t” and that’s all. Unless it’s something like drinking or drugs that can kill you or harm others, they can’t help some one who says they don’t have a problem.
Well if you’re honestly not trolling…
I don’t have to think about what I’m saying because I know that this:
“doctors have to base their diagnosis on “I want to stop but I can’t” and that’s all.”
is not true.
Do you seriously believe psychiatrists only have this one determining factor to decide if someone is addicted to something?
The ICD-11, which is what is relevant where I’m from, states Gaming Addiction as a behavioral addiction for which one diagnostic criteria is preoccupation which is determined by how often you play games.
To be fair the DSM-5(American Psychiatric Association) lists gaming addiction in it’s ‘more research needed’ section and hasn’t yet determined diagnostic criteria for gaming addiction specifically. But it does have the behavioral addiction of gambling, in which preoccupation is also one of these criteria.
I don’t know what else to tell you other than that the information you have or where it comes from is simply not true, I’m sorry.