Yes I read your comment. So if a man is compelled to murder two hobos a month and can’t break the habit, that would not be a strong indication of an addiction?
I mean I know you asked this as a kind of gotcha, but yes psychologists have long argued that seriel killing can be classified as a behavioral addiction.
Ted Bundy himself said he felt addicted to killing.
I’m not trolling. I’m trying to get you to think about what you’re saying. I’m hoping if you do, you’ll realize that doctors have to base their diagnosis on “I want to stop but I can’t” and that’s all. Unless it’s something like drinking or drugs that can kill you or harm others, they can’t help some one who says they don’t have a problem.
I don’t have to think about what I’m saying because I know that this:
“doctors have to base their diagnosis on “I want to stop but I can’t” and that’s all.”
is not true.
Do you seriously believe psychiatrists only have this one determining factor to decide if someone is addicted to something?
The ICD-11, which is what is relevant where I’m from, states Gaming Addiction as a behavioral addiction for which one diagnostic criteria is preoccupation which is determined by how often you play games.
To be fair the DSM-5(American Psychiatric Association) lists gaming addiction in it’s ‘more research needed’ section and hasn’t yet determined diagnostic criteria for gaming addiction specifically. But it does have the behavioral addiction of gambling, in which preoccupation is also one of these criteria.
I don’t know what else to tell you other than that the information you have or where it comes from is simply not true, I’m sorry.
I was seriously asking. Judging by your reaction though, I assume it doesn’t give a number. Probably because it doesn’t really factor into the diagnosis at all. The core of the diagnosis will be based on how much it affects your health and happiness.
Yes I read your comment. So if a man is compelled to murder two hobos a month and can’t break the habit, that would not be a strong indication of an addiction?
I mean I know you asked this as a kind of gotcha, but yes psychologists have long argued that seriel killing can be classified as a behavioral addiction. Ted Bundy himself said he felt addicted to killing.
It’s not a gotcha. It’s more of the Socratic method.
Lol ok. I guess that means you don’t have actual arguments or are just trying to be a troll.
Either way, have a good one.
I’m not trolling. I’m trying to get you to think about what you’re saying. I’m hoping if you do, you’ll realize that doctors have to base their diagnosis on “I want to stop but I can’t” and that’s all. Unless it’s something like drinking or drugs that can kill you or harm others, they can’t help some one who says they don’t have a problem.
Well if you’re honestly not trolling…
I don’t have to think about what I’m saying because I know that this:
“doctors have to base their diagnosis on “I want to stop but I can’t” and that’s all.”
is not true.
Do you seriously believe psychiatrists only have this one determining factor to decide if someone is addicted to something?
The ICD-11, which is what is relevant where I’m from, states Gaming Addiction as a behavioral addiction for which one diagnostic criteria is preoccupation which is determined by how often you play games.
To be fair the DSM-5(American Psychiatric Association) lists gaming addiction in it’s ‘more research needed’ section and hasn’t yet determined diagnostic criteria for gaming addiction specifically. But it does have the behavioral addiction of gambling, in which preoccupation is also one of these criteria.
I don’t know what else to tell you other than that the information you have or where it comes from is simply not true, I’m sorry.
That’s interesting. How many times does the DSM-5 say you can gamble before you have an addiction?
Interesting. How many times do I have to explain the concept of needing multiple criteria in order to diagnose addiction for you to understand it?
I was seriously asking. Judging by your reaction though, I assume it doesn’t give a number. Probably because it doesn’t really factor into the diagnosis at all. The core of the diagnosis will be based on how much it affects your health and happiness.