European leaders divided over how far to accommodate Trump’s ‘wrecking ball’ politics and foreign policy
US Democrats will use a security summit this weekend to urge European leaders to stand up to Donald Trump, with the continent divided over how to keep the unpredictable US president on side.
Democrats at the annual Munich Security Conference will include some of Trump’s most outspoken critics, such as the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, the New York congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Arizona senator Ruben Gallego and the Michigan governor, Gretchen Whitmer.
Newsom has already urged Europeans to realise that “grovelling to Trump’s needs” makes them “look pathetic on the world stage”, telling reporters at the World Economic Forum in Davos last month he “should have brought a bunch of knee pads”.
How about the damn Democrats stand up to Trump. Stop asking the world to fix your problems.
How do you suggest they do that? They’re the minority in both chambers of congress & already overwhelmingly oppose the president’s party on legislation. From roll call analysis
polarization is at the highest in the last several decades
Democrats have lately voted with higher party unity than Republicans
non-cooperation between parties is the highest it’s been for at least 6 decades & increasing
They’re supporting protests against the president’s actions.
When the Rs are minorities they are wrenches in spokes and sand in the gears of the govt. The Ds “try” and fold at the first opportunity. They could have prosecuted Trump immediately after J6 but waited years. They could have investigated the rigging of the 2024 election and didn’t. They’ve enabled, aided, and abetted the Rs facism and authoritarianism.
Do you have any analysis to substantiate your claims like the articles I linked?
The historical record of congressional party control shows that in the past 4 decades Democrats have rarely had enough control of both chambers to pass legislation without bipartisan support. Democrats (& independents caucusing with them) have had
Even with a majority, Democrats aren’t a monolith: they still have factions. Overcoming Senate filibuster requires 3/5 supermajority. Enacting legislation still requires presidential approval or veto override with 2/3 supermajority from both chambers. Veto overrides are rare & typically bipartisan, especially the last one, which was against Trump. Consequently, deliberation & compromise to broadly appeal to their own party & enough of the opposition is a practical necessity.
Moreover, Trump was impeached twice. They simply lacked the 2/3 supermajority in the Senate to convict due to insufficient bipartisan support.
The 1st impeachment split by party almost exactly:
The 2nd impeachment on 2021/1/13 was only days after the 2021/1/6 incitement of insurrection. Despite some Republican support, not enough were willing to defy Trump.
Failure to convict on 2021/2/13 imperiled chances of a federal criminal case against Trump’s actions during presidency. At that point, congressional Democrats had exhausted the extent of their powers to prosecute or avail Trump to prosecution. The congressional investigation afterward while lengthy posed no real chance of holding Trump legally accountable for inciting insurrection: it could only make findings & refer criminal charges to prosecutors. Any further action would need to be taken by federal prosecutors in the presidential administration.
While the DOJ investigation started late in 2022 November & failed to enter trial hearings (either due to a corrupt judge or appeals over presidential immunity) by the time Trump was reelected, that failure was entirely the Biden administration’s and not of the Democratic party, who had promptly impeached Trump & failed to obtain conviction, because the numbers weren’t in their favor.
Putting “wrenches in the spokes” goes both ways. Do you know how long congressional Republicans had tried to restrict abortion? They simply couldn’t: they had to circumvent US congress through the Supreme Court & state legislatures. Democrats haven’t been “enabling, aiding, or abetting” Republican fascism or authoritarianism: roll calls indicate the contrary. It’s just Congress operating as unsatisfactory & inefficient as should be expected when half represent crazed-out fascists.
Again, any concrete suggestions for how the “damn Democrats” could “stand up to Trump”?
This, exactly. trump and everything he represents is only ever been made possible by the feckless, equivocating cowardice of a Democratic Party that is more organized around fundraising than it is about accomplishing anything. Newsom is the complete embodiment of those failures and his posturing for the next presidency represents a continuation of them.
cowardicecollaboration.You have Democrats trying to control criminal outlaws with laws. See the problem?
I understand that it isn’t fair and that we don’t “deserve” help, but Trump is a cancer on the earth itself.
European leaders and OP when Trump inevitably attacks and invades a NATO nation because they don’t take him seriously:
We could use the help. But the miserable gormlessness of the Democrats is a big part of the problem.