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    So…. I am going to express my opinion that Trumpism is merely the latest, not so different, expression of American capitalism that has always been this nasty and poisonous. And this includes the raids and round ups currently in the news.

    There are some things that changed: the targets and oppressed have changed for some. The messaging has changed.

    It’s a fad. This will fade soon enough, and things will still be bad. The good guys will be elected and clean up some of the stuff, but most of what they do will be ineffective. And then the next bad guy will come to power

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      Exactly.

      What Donald is doing has always occurred. It’s just been better hidden, and he doesn’t care to hide any of it. The corruption we’re seeing now is only new if you’ve never cracked open a history book.

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      Based on what toady Mike Johnson and trump have been saying today/yesterday about how the GOP should control elections, I have a lot of worry that there will never be any more “good guys” elected.

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        Many states have elections that do not allow recounts, using hidden methods to count, and flunk the same fraud checks used pretty in other counties reliably.

        Given that, I’m not too worried

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    Rightoids are unbelievably predictable. Meet one in public and you could guess everything that comes out of their mouth from the very beginning of the conversation

    Only actual fucking idiots are unable to realize how predictable rightoids are

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    In 2024, everything was already laid out for everybody to see clear as day - Trump1.0, MAGA’s behavior since 2021, Project 2025…

    BTW, in 2016, both Mary Trump and Tony Schwartz predicted Jan 6 21: “If he loses the next election, he won’t go willingly.”

    Ever since Jan 6 21 it’s been crystal clear where this goes if he wins again.

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    How was anyone supposed to know he was gonna do the things he said he wanted to do. 1000002742

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    The people who needed to be convinced think the New York Times is globalist propaganda. If they even noticed the existence of this article they would assume it was a made up smear campaign against Dear Leader.

    Also, our media (even the “liberal media”) is part of the problem. For example, they did such a terrible job explaining Trump’s attempts to steal the 2020 election that to this day even many anti-Trump Americans don’t understand how fucked up it was.

    The primary blame is on the sociopaths in charge and the troglodytes who voted them in, but there is plenty of guilt to go around.

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      I worked in news media in the Bush years and I got to see first hand how our national news promoted the lies coming from the Bush administration and helping spearhead support for an Iraq invasion.

      The media has been a problem for a long time.

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        NYT endorsed Iraq invasion even though there was no evidence of WMDs and the rest of the world was against it. Surprise, no WMDs were found.

        Interestingly, some companies did steal billions upon billions of dollars and we blew the national debt up. Strange that outcome …

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          NYT also sat on the story about NSA wiretapping US citizens for over a year at the behest of the Bush admin. Later, DNI Clapper would deny that spying on Americans happened “wittingly,” a denial which would push Edward Snowden to leak information thst proved otherwise.

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            The NYT also sat on the story of Trump having Maduro kidnapped. They (along with WaPo) were informed of the operation 24 hours before it happened.

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              Absolutely, but I think right now it’s important to be able to show that this behavior goes back decades and isn’t some new phenomenon that so many people act as though it is.

              The NSA story they sat on was in 2007 when they published it, so literally has been 20 years this year.

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                It goes back way before that too. During WWII they were firmly against the US entering the war and also against allowing Jewish refugees into the country.

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        I’m still pretty pissed off about that. It’s when I learned that a huge number of my fellow citizens are really stupid. Covid was when I learned that they’re also hateful pieces of shit.

        Freedom fries, you guys. Woohoo.

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        Iraq II - Shock and Awe was definitely a huge part of my political awakening. I’m still saddened (but no longer amazed) that more people didn’t figure it out at the time, and that so many still haven’t figured it out.

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          People still think the NYT is some left leaning (or even “far left” in some circles) source. It’s fucking absurd.

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          The pride I never had, the nationality that I never felt
          Saddam was bad, and the American’s even more so
          They made me grow like i was missing part of my torso
          But I never picked up a grenade in my garden
          I never saw people I love die starving
          I never saw my family die through many years of sanctions
          While the rulers family lived in palaces and mansions
          Never had a family member kidnapped for a ransom
          I never lost a friend to violence that was random
          Bombings, occupation, torture, intimidation
          A million dead people doesn’t equal liberation

          https://youtu.be/nOg8Roq8CtY

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      The biggest lie of them all is the “Liberal” in liberal media

      All American media is essentially fascist, they’ve proven this beyond a doubt

      If there were even a HINT of an ALLEGATION that Biden or Obama were party to INFANTICIDE they would have burned DC to the ground. Now all the US media outlets are just participating in the damage control operation

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      I don’t recall the media covering the fake electors of the Jan 6 coup hardly at all. The media loved to cover the big violent crowd becaus it was flashy. However, the fake elector scheme was the more significant crisis in my mind. That showed a planned and coordinated effort by people in power to subvert democracy.

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      No, the people who needed to be convinced were the on-the-fence independents who stupidly thought they’d get a better economy under “Trump the successful businessman” than Kamala “Joe Biden 2.0 Harris.” They’re the ones who dismissed Trump’s stated plans as bluster; the people you’re talking about knew he wasn’t joking and were counting on it.

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    Yup.

    Reminds me of the time everyone was excited about Joe Biden and I (rightly) predicted that for the vast majority of Americans, your lives were about to get vastly more expensive.

    And before the peanut gallery chimes in, yes, I voted Biden. At the time I naively thought that a cultural backlash against MAGA would put Donald back in private life permanently where he belongs. Unfortunately, Genocide Joe didn’t concern himself much with fascism, and largely, made it worse. (Especially when it comes to militarizing cops.)

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    many of his most reckless efforts in his first administration were stymied only because of others in his administration who blocked, delayed or watered down his aims to ensure that he could not put himself above the law or the country.

    I often wonder what would have happened if his first term was unleashed. Eg if McCain voted yes to dismantle ACA. If Trump got his way the first time, would he have gotten in the second?

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      If Trump had gotten his way the first time, we’d be in a fascist dictatorship that is 9 years old now instead of one.

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    Fuck that. It was predicted a full year before. This is bullshit. Stop reading the NYT. They lied about the attack on Oct 7 (claimed sex crimes that didn’t happen) and never made a retraction. I cancelled my subscription to them and to the Washington Post (cause Bezos killed an opinion piece endorsing Biden, who I voted for because fuck Trump, but Biden was a terrible candidate).

    Listen to the audio-book, “Manufacturing Consent,” from Noam Chomsky. Unfortunately, he’s in the Epstein docs, so I can’t recommend him otherwise. Oh well. All these people are monsters.

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      Unfortunately, he’s in the Epstein docs, so I can’t recommend him otherwise.

      Also read an introductory textbook on logic & pay attention to fallacies like ad hominem. Shit’s timeless & really pays off far better than whatever joke of an education people got.

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      People who are “in the Epstein files” probably just pissed off the Moussad. Otherwise, where the fuck are the other names? Sounds like a bunch if bullshit to me. Documents can be falsified.

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        There’s photos of Chomsky and Epstein laughing and sitting together on his jet. Its not as if his name just happens to be written in the documents devoid of any other context.

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      Beyond being buddies with Epstein, Noam is just a piece of shit of a person. Just absolute scum with interesting and thoughtful insights…but just a horrible person.

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        Can you point me toward some resources to learn more (aside from Epstein dump)? I have always admired his writing on propaganda and sociology but am painfully unaware of what he is like as a person.

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      Biden was a terrible candidate

      In a binary choice. He can also be the best candidate. Unfortunately many Americans don’t understand the difference between “imperfect” and “comically bad, unsuitable and incapable”. It’s too nuanced.

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    Donald Trump was a lot of peoples’ fault. One article nailing him doesn’t cancel out all the articles that normalized or sane washed him, or ran with his narrative. Nor does it undercut all the well-justified mistrust of legacy American media. It’s not as if people started trusting pundits out of nowhere - they started looking for commentary and news from alternate sources because yeah, actually, a lot of legacy media does report like they serve their wealthy owners. Not that MAGA pundits don’t, but that’s beside the point.

    Hell, even right now, they’re generally running with the narrative that Trump’s Israel-Gaza ceasefire has been effective by not reporting that Israel still murders many innocent Palestinians every day.