They didn’t do the right thing though. We are not in a peacetime situation where we are extending olive branches to the terrorists, in hopes of showing them our humanity. They. Do. Not. Care.
No. This is why democrats fail. They are not willing to do what needs to be done, to say what needs to be said, for fear of their farts not smelling like roses.
Take your high road, write a letter, and slam the nazi’s in a clever tweet.
There’s a difference between doing what needs to be done, and simply doing what they’re doing but against them.
If you start using duhumanising rhetoric, and labelling them as less than human to justify violence against them, then it won’t be long before you start expanding your definition of who isn’t human. Just like they’re doing.
What should have happened to nazi Germany, if not fight them with violence? The nazis invaded, remember. Do you not believe in self defense against an invading and occupying force? Nazis are invading your city right now, when will they be occupying your state next?
We should have genocided all of Germany? We should have killed the POWs? Not rendered aid to enemy casualties?
Generally the correct answer is, it’s complicated. If you’re arguing something is black and white you’re probably privileged enough to have never had to make one of these decisions yourself. Do I want ICE to exist? No. Do I want all conservatives to die? Also no. What’s more, people have all of 2 seconds to make these kinds of decisions and generally fall back on their training, which is to render aid first and figure out the rest later. Personally, I like that that’s what their instinct is, and I’m not going to give them shit for it
You arent seeing me complain, but I am not putting down anyone for wanting to see different. It’s complicated, like you said. You cant afford to be afraid of violence right now, or if you are, be prepared to get out of the way
I am talking about people having a human moment during a medical emergency.
Maybe you could watch someone die in front of you, but I couldn’t.
I could kill someone if I needed to but there is a difference in defending yourself when you are in mortal danger and letting someone die.
If we become the monsters they think we are, then we won’t fix society, we will guarantee the schizm poisons the next generation when the battle is over.
No.
I feel miserable for Alex but maintain my position. That said, should any of the ICE agents been shot right there by anyone on the street whilst commiting a crime I wouldn’t have anything negative to say about their shooting.
ice is an enemy to which we can give no quarter. they have declared that they can came into our houses, any one of us, with no warrant, no proceedure, nothing but what they decide based on a list of criteria they will not make public, and kidnap us.
fuck ice. they are destroying families and communities, they are using children as ‘bait’ .
I don’t think the world is a better place when a 1st grade teacher saves the fascist and they go out and kidnap a 1st grader to use as bait to send their parents to a death camp in El Salvador.
In a vacuum it’s the good thing to help someone else in need. In this case the person you’re saving is causing active harm to others.
They have proven time and time again that they don’t care about humanity. They don’t care about “doing what’s right”. There is no scorecard here. We’re to the point where they are maiming and murdering in the streets.
Just think for one second here, all of the terrible videos we’ve seen are a snowflake on top of the iceberg that is their daily crimes and abuses.
If you see an injured pig, be sure to piss on it before you pass it by.
As I think about more of your posts I can see the fear oozing out of them.
Why not shoot them as you pass? I know for me it falls into barbarism.
Better yet, since you clearly want them dead, look em up, but em down, be the big damn hero. Show me your mettle, get your ass off your keyboard, and go be a warrior.
I’ll stay behind mine and consider the long-term ramifications of all my actions and inactions. I’ll stay behind mine so that the social work I do can keep happening as atrocities pile up. We all need jobs when it comes to f defending the home front. You go be a hero, I’ll tend to the hearts and minds of those who will benefit from your sacrifice.
I think it’s more weird that you want people to just callously walk by someone having a medical emergency. I think it’s extra weird you would expect a 1st grade teacher to have that as a default position.
I am terrified of a world where a 1st grade teacher doesn’t go strait to first aid when they are witnessing a medical emergency.
They didn’t do the right thing though. We are not in a peacetime situation where we are extending olive branches to the terrorists, in hopes of showing them our humanity. They. Do. Not. Care.
The only good fascist is the one with blue lips.
Sure. But we aren’t them. We do care. We have humanity.
Let’s not sacrifice that and lower ourselves to their level.
No. This is why democrats fail. They are not willing to do what needs to be done, to say what needs to be said, for fear of their farts not smelling like roses.
Take your high road, write a letter, and slam the nazi’s in a clever tweet.
There’s a difference between doing what needs to be done, and simply doing what they’re doing but against them.
If you start using duhumanising rhetoric, and labelling them as less than human to justify violence against them, then it won’t be long before you start expanding your definition of who isn’t human. Just like they’re doing.
What should have happened to nazi Germany, if not fight them with violence? The nazis invaded, remember. Do you not believe in self defense against an invading and occupying force? Nazis are invading your city right now, when will they be occupying your state next?
We should have genocided all of Germany? We should have killed the POWs? Not rendered aid to enemy casualties?
Generally the correct answer is, it’s complicated. If you’re arguing something is black and white you’re probably privileged enough to have never had to make one of these decisions yourself. Do I want ICE to exist? No. Do I want all conservatives to die? Also no. What’s more, people have all of 2 seconds to make these kinds of decisions and generally fall back on their training, which is to render aid first and figure out the rest later. Personally, I like that that’s what their instinct is, and I’m not going to give them shit for it
You arent seeing me complain, but I am not putting down anyone for wanting to see different. It’s complicated, like you said. You cant afford to be afraid of violence right now, or if you are, be prepared to get out of the way
If you don’t value Nazi lives you’re as bad as a Nazi killing innocent people for how they were born!!!111one
Like… I get it… But at the same time the moment we give up our humanity we are not better than they are.
high road = dead end
What high road?
I am talking about people having a human moment during a medical emergency.
Maybe you could watch someone die in front of you, but I couldn’t.
I could kill someone if I needed to but there is a difference in defending yourself when you are in mortal danger and letting someone die.
If we become the monsters they think we are, then we won’t fix society, we will guarantee the schizm poisons the next generation when the battle is over.
you feeling any differently about this stance now?
rip alex pretti.
No. I feel miserable for Alex but maintain my position. That said, should any of the ICE agents been shot right there by anyone on the street whilst commiting a crime I wouldn’t have anything negative to say about their shooting.
ice is an enemy to which we can give no quarter. they have declared that they can came into our houses, any one of us, with no warrant, no proceedure, nothing but what they decide based on a list of criteria they will not make public, and kidnap us.
fuck ice. they are destroying families and communities, they are using children as ‘bait’ .
they cannot be saved.
let them bleed out.
I said it in a other comment.
I don’t think the world is a better place when a 1st grade teachers gut reaction is to watch someone in a medical emergency die.
I don’t think the world is a better place when a 1st grade teacher saves the fascist and they go out and kidnap a 1st grader to use as bait to send their parents to a death camp in El Salvador.
In a vacuum it’s the good thing to help someone else in need. In this case the person you’re saving is causing active harm to others.
They have proven time and time again that they don’t care about humanity. They don’t care about “doing what’s right”. There is no scorecard here. We’re to the point where they are maiming and murdering in the streets.
Just think for one second here, all of the terrible videos we’ve seen are a snowflake on top of the iceberg that is their daily crimes and abuses.
If you see an injured pig, be sure to piss on it before you pass it by.
As I think about more of your posts I can see the fear oozing out of them.
Why not shoot them as you pass? I know for me it falls into barbarism.
Better yet, since you clearly want them dead, look em up, but em down, be the big damn hero. Show me your mettle, get your ass off your keyboard, and go be a warrior.
I’ll stay behind mine and consider the long-term ramifications of all my actions and inactions. I’ll stay behind mine so that the social work I do can keep happening as atrocities pile up. We all need jobs when it comes to f defending the home front. You go be a hero, I’ll tend to the hearts and minds of those who will benefit from your sacrifice.
I’m advocating for every citizen to standby and do nothing if they come upon a wounded or sick pig.
Btw, I stopped reading after the keyboard warrior thing. Stop being weird.
What was weird about it?
I think it’s more weird that you want people to just callously walk by someone having a medical emergency. I think it’s extra weird you would expect a 1st grade teacher to have that as a default position.
I am terrified of a world where a 1st grade teacher doesn’t go strait to first aid when they are witnessing a medical emergency.
🤦🏻♀️
Did I misrepresent your position?