• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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    2 days ago

    I want to do something broadly effective, not make a useless gesture of violence in response to violence. If you feel like you need to take direct action against the oppressors, for whatever reason you might have in mind, you are being reactionary - which is how we got to this place of divisive extremist politics in the first place.

    And yes, I understand that we’re past mere political disagreements at this point, and people are dying. It doesn’t matter, because any action taken without planning and coordination will be performative and nothing else.

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      If you think you’re getting out of fascism without picking up a gun at this point, well, I guess fascism is going to win.

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        You’re right, but this is also going on:

        Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

        The right wasn’t radicalized by accident, and it would be naive to think the same manipulation isn’t being done to the left - say by advocating for violent resistance.

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            Perhaps it was easier to push the right in that direction, to get them started, but nothing will disable the left quite like elitism. Nothing makes the people on the left special, or somehow immune.

            If we recognize that this kind of manipulation is happening to others, we should be examining our own behaviors, motivations, and intentions for similar effects.

            I have no interest in being manipulated into contributing to the chaos and destruction to serve someone else’s political goals. And if we believe that the path the right has taken is lined with mistakes and cruelty, why would we then follow them down the same path?

            Our path should look like this:

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      2 days ago

      - Active civil war brought on by the feds
      - Violence pouring out all over the country because of the actions of the feds
      - libs: “you are being reactionary!”