• FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I don’t think he ever was. I never understood why people liked him. He always seemed like a poser to me. He wanted to be a cool guy, he wanted to be funny, he wanted to be a UFC fighter… I guess that kind of describes everyone in the “manosphere”.

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      At one point he was actually kinda open minded and could raise an interesting discussion from time to time. Those days are loooooooong fucking gone. It’s all just ego maintenance and propaganda now.

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        Admittedly I found him through his conversations with scientists I enjoyed listening to. Those days were good, they’d just have conversations about black holes and quantum physics. Then shit got absolutely out of hand and I never listened to him again.

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          Yeah I think what’s missed is that there weren’t a lot of long form podcasts like that at the time. It was great to be able to hear someone like Sean Carroll come on and talk about Spacetime for 3 hours and then have Joe convince him to start his own podcast, which is still going and really dang good. Joe served as the interested but uninformed audience to just kind of keep the person talking. Not to defend what it’s become, but it wasn’t always like it is now

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            It’s too bad so many people found Joe Rogan more interesting than Stuff You Should Know, even though the latter started before Rogan. Josh and Chuck don’t have whacky guests, but they talk about the coolest topics.

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              talked*,

              after I saw that Terrance Howard one I think I lost some IQ points and all of my respect (what little was left) for Rogan.

              now there’s way better podcast like star talk or anything else.

              people figured out his formula, anyone left listening is on the bottom of the dev curve.

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        So what you’re saying he was always a moron, just was open minded and let his guests carry the conversation?

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              No he doesn’t actually, he’s genuinely dumb. Covid broke his brain, and he retreated from the criticism into a right wing bubble and that’s now his entire worldview because it’s just one big echo chamber

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                It cost a billion dollars to shut Alex Jones up. Did it maybe have something to do with Rogans $100m Spotify deal?

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                Both can be true, it is always a mix of believing and pretending to with them. I listened to him advance arguments about prez’s lawsuits on media he knew were bs, and castigating environmental protesters with arguments he knows are not valid.

                But yeah I am sure he believes a lot of it, or starts to believe in the echo chamber even. These people have no fealty to reality, society, the republic that made them rich and protects their wealth. They believe in nothing outside of self interest, emulating people like the president.

                They do not even look at it like true or lie, good or bad, only if it helps them or not.

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          I’ve heard it many times that Rogan is a ‘neutral interviewer’. So I listened to his old episode with Chuck Palahniuk. The writer of transgressive literature Chuck Palahniuk mentioned that he participated in some kinda normie book reading club, and thought of bringing up his writing in there, but realized it would be unfit. Whereupon ‘neutral interviewer’ Rogan began insisting that this is censorship, and kept repeating that this is censorship and asking Palahniuk to admit that it’s censorship until the transgressive literature author Chuck Palahniuk said ‘okay, it’s censorship’ just to get ‘neutral interviewer’ Joe Rogan to shut up.

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      He’s relatable. He’s that guy that’s cool to chill with on the couch and talk about random shit. But he’ll chill with everyone from scammers to Nazis on that couch.

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      He has a few comedy bits I like but those are more like diamonds in the rough