Federal immigration agents swarm Minneapolis high school, handcuff staff and fire chemical irritants at students. Safety concerns prompt school closure.
it seems the executive branch has moved on from deploying the national guard to instigate violence and instead is just outright committing acts of violence on its own.
You’re not wrong. That’s exactly what they are doing. But they are doing it out of desperation: if they get us to the midterms and states (all voting in the US is regulated by the states, not the feds) have elections, this administration becomes powerless and Trump is in the same danger he was in prior to regaining office, but now with a pissed off nation that wants him gone.
For myself, it’s too soon to tell whether this administration will succeed in overthrowing the legitimate government and substituting its own form of fascist authoritarianism. This is in progress; it is anything but complete. Plus, states have their own authority as well, and today, the Minnesota AG told the feds that the goon who shot Ms. Good can be prosecuted for murder by the state. So it may not be up to the feds after all. I guess we’ll see.
So you’re saying we only need to wait one year until the midterms and if that doesn’t work, then all gloves off? Or are you going to tell us to wait then too?
I’m not telling anyone anything but to stand back, learn their enemy, and choose their own moment in which to bleed. Anyone calling for others to fight is not going to be bearing your losses, you are. You choose your own moment to fight.
And while you’re weighing up your best approach, look at one of the many violent protests we’ve already had in this country and consider which ones are resounding successes, because they’re not. They are all remembered as fails, on both sides. There are very good reasons why agents provocateurs are planted in non-violent protests; they would not be there if violence was not going to help the state.
Meanwhile, the National Guard was ordered out of Portland in 2025 because of non-violence:
You have no right to get others to fight your battles. If you want to hit the streets and fight ICE, no one is stopping you. But it won’t change a fucking thing. That’s a great way to ensure you get labeled violent thugs and your protest labeled the problem of malcontents.
If you want change that makes a government truly piss itself in fear, go French and have a general strike.
I think you misunderstand. I don’t want violent PROTESTS. I want people to get these ghouls in their homes, as should anyone who truly values morality and not just pays lip service to it. But yes we all must choose our own moments of actions.
These people are doing real damage to real peoples lives. Destroying them and preventing that damage is an obvious good. These people will not be reformed. They will not be swayed by moral arguments and logic. They want you to suffer and they want to be the one to cause it.
You’re not wrong. That’s exactly what they are doing. But they are doing it out of desperation: if they get us to the midterms and states (all voting in the US is regulated by the states, not the feds) have elections, this administration becomes powerless and Trump is in the same danger he was in prior to regaining office, but now with a pissed off nation that wants him gone.
For myself, it’s too soon to tell whether this administration will succeed in overthrowing the legitimate government and substituting its own form of fascist authoritarianism. This is in progress; it is anything but complete. Plus, states have their own authority as well, and today, the Minnesota AG told the feds that the goon who shot Ms. Good can be prosecuted for murder by the state. So it may not be up to the feds after all. I guess we’ll see.
So you’re saying we only need to wait one year until the midterms and if that doesn’t work, then all gloves off? Or are you going to tell us to wait then too?
I’m not telling anyone anything but to stand back, learn their enemy, and choose their own moment in which to bleed. Anyone calling for others to fight is not going to be bearing your losses, you are. You choose your own moment to fight.
And while you’re weighing up your best approach, look at one of the many violent protests we’ve already had in this country and consider which ones are resounding successes, because they’re not. They are all remembered as fails, on both sides. There are very good reasons why agents provocateurs are planted in non-violent protests; they would not be there if violence was not going to help the state.
Meanwhile, the National Guard was ordered out of Portland in 2025 because of non-violence:
https://www.opb.org/pdf/FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW_1762564569662.pdf
You have no right to get others to fight your battles. If you want to hit the streets and fight ICE, no one is stopping you. But it won’t change a fucking thing. That’s a great way to ensure you get labeled violent thugs and your protest labeled the problem of malcontents.
If you want change that makes a government truly piss itself in fear, go French and have a general strike.
I think you misunderstand. I don’t want violent PROTESTS. I want people to get these ghouls in their homes, as should anyone who truly values morality and not just pays lip service to it. But yes we all must choose our own moments of actions.
These people are doing real damage to real peoples lives. Destroying them and preventing that damage is an obvious good. These people will not be reformed. They will not be swayed by moral arguments and logic. They want you to suffer and they want to be the one to cause it.