I’m finding it harder and harder to believe that someone can be this stupid unintentionally.
“Tiny Man Square” LMAO…. The coward won’t even say it.
I’m finding it harder and harder to believe that someone can be this stupid unintentionally.
“Tiny Man Square” LMAO…. The coward won’t even say it.
I love how in your last post here you claimed people were insulting you and being childish then you post this shit lmao. Davel and others on .ml have posted other things on the subject you just cherry-picked this to get internet points. Deeply unserious.
The Tian’anmen Square “massacre” narrative is a collection of lies and propaganda used by the CIA to get (mostly) westoids to hate the PRC. Anyone who continues to believe it does the state department’s work for free. Here’s another overview on the events that will help with deprogramming.
TLDR: “it’s good when soldiers murder civilian protesters.”
That sentiment’s gonna be a tough one for me to accept dawg.
Your sources contradict each other btw.
It is horrible that people died, especially the soliders the CIA-backed protesters brutally killed. The CPC had to crackdown on the foreign influence that was trying to overthrow the government.
This is the problem with tankies: immoral contempt for universal human rights, the ends justify the means.
People can we please stop using this word it doesn’t mean anything and MLs don’t take offense from it!
Despite us disagreeing I still think you deserve free healthcare, housing, education, a fair payment for work free of exploitation, and good healthy living conditions.
But not protection of universal human rights from unrestricted government authority: deal breaker & immoral.
You’re right there are some “human rights” I don’t believe should be protected, for example the ability to freely become a capitalist. Capitalism, and by extension fascism, needs to be repressed since both are oppressive, exploitative, and destructive systems that prevent the progression of human development.
So you come here to spread your bullshit and propaganda in his defense? Loving those “reliable” sources of yours!
LMAO!
Nah I do this for the love of the game. And where are your reliable sources that prove what you say? Go ahead and check the CIA archives I’ll wait.
I’ll ask the question which I already know from experience to be tankie kryptonite:
What sources, to you, are reliable? Wikipedia? Al Jazeera? UN reports? Something else? What could I point to, that you would believe after I pointed to it?
Because their whole worldview is based on groupthink and hostility, they won’t answer this question. Because they know what the next step would be as soon as they admitted some particular source into the equation and let the conversation become grounded in reality…
I want to let know this word means nothing and doesn’t have the effect you’re hoping for.
Basically sources that don’t advance Western imperialism. The US has been trying to destabilize and overthrow the PRC government since it was founded so I don’t take any of their claims to heart. The interests of capital clearly have an agenda and spends millions of dollars to make us think a certain way - in this case to make us against China. I also got over my sinophobia so its easier to read things directly from China or things about the country.
This source goes in how Western media got it wrong at first and they had to walk it back, one directly from China, another from China, one about how the US fabricated the lie, and one from the UK just to show that there is some credible information coming from the West. Even the rest of the video of “Tank man” shows him go on top the tank, talk with a soldier, then gets off peacefully. Overwhelmingly the evidence shows there was no massacre.
This isn’t the only thing the US/West lies about either, they lie about virtually everything and things become clearer the more you read and break out of the propaganda wall.
Cool! That was unexpectedly broad. So just to be specific, is Al Jazeera included in that?
Actually, follow-up question: Does it include Noam Chomsky?
Al Jazeera is hit or miss. Chomsky is trash.
Great. So your criteria include a little bit more than just “sources that don’t advance Western imperialism.” Can you give some examples? Maybe, like, a couple of academic sources, and a couple of journalistic ones?
(Like I said, I’ve had this conversation before, more than once. I’m well aware of why you are so reluctant to give a straight answer to this simple question. I’m curious whether you are aware of why you aren’t able to give a straight answer…)
I’ve answered your questions and provided multiple sources I find reliable in this thread. If you pointed to any of those then yeah I would be with you but honestly since you decide to believe the CIA propaganda nothing you could point to would change my mind, and I’d rather avoid mental regression. I used to think like you, said “China bad” and decried about tankies but once I started educating myself on socialism and AES states my worldview changed and realized we didn’t know shit about shit. What you believe is not substantiated by facts or evidence, its a compilation of lies from people who want to colonize China. Drop the (western) chauvinism and read something at least neutral on the PRC, doesn’t have to be related to this subject. I’m curious though if you have an Al Jazerra or other source waiting in the chamber that disproves what I’m saying I’d like to read it for old times sake - I’ll be waiting for what the next step is!
For bonus here’s some more sources with TONS of reliable information on the Tiananmen protests, including one from my favorite for all things China, the Qiao Collective:
• Tiananmen Protests Reading List
• The Myth of Tiananmen
• How psy-ops warriors fooled me about Tiananmen Square: a warning
Reliable sources?
I call to the stand- REALITY.
Oh and hey bud, while reality is up there ripping the living shit out of your flimsy argument- take note how you’re not being removed or blocked for the dumb shit you’re saying here.
Lastly- to the rest of us, it’s not a game. I get that your entitlement doesn’t let you see thar we’ve been playing with live ammo here, but people are suffering because of ignorance spread by idiots that follow the propaganda you follow.
And you have nothing. If you’d take the time to read what I posted in them are specific sources that do explain reality. I don’t blindly accept Western propaganda/talking points like I used to.
What are you talking about? lol
Also who is suffering because I don’t believe CIA claims?
I mean go ahead and remove/ban me if you want, I’ll take it as a badge of honor 😁
I have nothing? If we suspend reality and insert your weird little propagandized version of it, I suppose you could say that. But as far as taking the time to read the bullshit you shared? No. That’s not gonna happen, bud.
When someone says dumb shit like “I don’t believe in CIA claims” about a VERY public and very well known even in history, I tend to dismiss them and everything they have to say as irrelevant and not worth the effort to take seriously. Im sure you’re pretty acclimated to this by now.
And playing with live ammo. Seriously? You’ve never heard this term? I’m surprised considering how you all goon yourselves dehydrated over public displays of warfare,
I mean… come on! All those innocent victims of the TIANANMEN SQUARE didn’t just massacre themselves, right? Someone had to anoint all those tanks with…. “good luck”.
I’ll digress.
What people in the real world mean by “playing with live ammo” is that all decisions are final. There’s no practice rounds. And your entitlement enabled Putin’s little butt-puppet to bring hell on earth down on many innocent people.
But that’s the point, isn’t it?
Lastly, I don’t have the power to remove or ban you- and even if I did, I’d leave your embarrassing bullshit up as an shining example of why this community exists.
I’m not the one with nothing, comrade.
You’re still not saying anything of substance and nothing to make me realign with your worldview
Overwhelmingly the evidence points to there being no massacre and I’ve provided sources for it. Here’s another comment I made on this post providing more.
Continue to be purposefully ignorant then idk
Did you miss the part where I said I don’t waste my time debating people who say dumb shit? That you can actually believe ridiculous nonsense like that doesn’t bode well for any attempt I might make to change your mind- so why would I try?
And that I’ve already told you that I’m not reading your propaganda- and you post it anyway clearly shows you don’t command the grey matter to discuss anything worthwhile.
Not saying the claims I believe is dumb shit since its backed by sources you refuse to read, but you should’ve responded to the part of my first comment where I was criticizing you, not what I had to say about Tian’anmen Square.
You sound like my ex friends who despite me showing them scientific evidence for why we should accept trans people they continue to be transphobic. People who resist knowledge are the most pathetic people to me.
Hell yeah I did because its more proof that shows why you’re wrong.
What a deeply unserious person you are. Do you even read theory? Obvious troll.
Username checks out
Sees someone post sources that challenge my manufactured worldview - must be a troll!
Prole wiki and autistic ci, known CIA propaganda sites. Try harder, fed troll
Simply reading prolewiki’s and autistici’s about pages will show that your claims are asinine. Nice sprinkle of ableism too bigot
You use the language of real leftists, but not like a native speaker. Go back to Quantico, fed troll. Take more classes.
Why would a fed post things that go against fed-programming 😭
Run your weird psyop somewhere else. Plonk
You already outed yourself as a bigot so your opinion is invalid chud.