• MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Soft magic systems aren’t any fun. Change my mind.

    Christianity, stranger things and paranormal activity are equally as uninteresting to me because it’s “because I said so”. Boooooooo, come up with some rules for your world.

    Can we make a new category of fiction called “supernatural” SEPARATE from sci-fi and fantasy? Thanks, that would be nice.

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      2 days ago

      “Magic system” is a bit of an oxymoron imo. The problem with having hard rules for magic is that that’s not magic, that’s science. You just end up with a world with slightly different physical laws.

      Technology can be interesting on its own but a deep understanding of the underlying mechanics kills the magic. A rock that lets you talk with someone over great distance is magic but if you explain it as manipulating imperceptible vibrations in the air you just have a radio.

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        12 hours ago

        “Magic system” is a bit of an oxymoron

        This is just the currently accepted terminology in world building: https://rebeccashedd.com/2024/10/25/the-worldbuilders-toolkit-building-a-magic-system/

        I’m just extending this to sci-fi also, as have many others, because they’re basically the same thing, only that the sci-fi magic systems are vaugely based on real-life science (but vary wildly how closely).

        Think Stargate with their loosey-goosey ancients and accession, vs the much more grounded The Expanse.

        I’m just not a fan of magic systems without any rules at all.

        Hence why I find supernatural stories less interesting, which streaming services, book shops, and movie theatres, frustratingly categorise under fantasy. They are very different from sci-fi and fantasy, in my opinion.

        If your magic is purely “mysterious”, that’s boring, and lazy story-telling (In my opinion).

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      2 days ago

      Bro do you criticize The Epic of Gilgamesh for being a pre-Tolkien world building standard too? You have to judge these fantasies in context

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        2 days ago

        Just joking around, but yeah, I personally enjoy what I call “supernatural” stories less than sci-fi and fantasy with proper world-building