What I’ve learned is that Reddit.world allows for rule breaking as long as you’re punching left, but if you’re the one being beat on and you defend yourself you’ll be banned for wrongthink.
I saw a comment the other day saying that an .ml called them a nazi and then that same .ml replied with a picture of the comment they had made dehumanising Russians.
I had the exact opposite experience in .ml for slightly criticizing communism and got site-banned by an admin right after the lynching. I’ve been criticizing the right in .world for two and a half years without a problem. Not a single comment taken down or a single ban for it. I don’t know where .mls who criticize .world get that from, but judging by the awful and overwhelmingly terrible attitudes I see from .mls I can see why they’re often complaining.
You haven’t had a problem because your politics align with .world - it’s a good match. You’re allowed criticism within a set of safe boundaries that do not challenge power. If you start talking about not voting for Democrats, though, they get a lot more hostile.
Not really? My politics align with the ones in my country. Our right wingers are essentially Democrats, and I didn’t vote for those. I also support criticism of the Democrats for being spineless and complicit, for example.
What I’ve noticed, though, is that the “challenging of power” as it often manifests is misrepresenting things like their role of Democrats in the Palestinian genocide. They’re usually in the form of uncompromising shrieks, calling everyone in the vicinity a Nazi.
Mostly to get away from the liberals, rightists, bots, trolls and capitalists losers.
So while the tankies and the terminally online purity test leftists are shitty, it’s at least not as bad as all the bullshit on Reddit and they are a small minority.
I mean, you can view it that way if you like, but I feel like if you’re being an actually reasonable person, you can acknowledge there is a big difference between a purity test that about some politicians policy on benefits for homeless people not being enough, and a purity test of not assassinating political opponents or just straight up being an authoritarian.
So, what’s the non-authoritarian alternative that you support? Because Democrats, Labour, etc are all pro-surveillance, pro-incarceration, pro-war, and pro-genocide. But when I point this out I’m doing purity tests! Isn’t that funny? I think it’s funny. Not like ha-ha funny, but like, there’s an absurdity to the fact that my criticisms are purity testing but yours are “reasonable.”
a purity test that about some politicians policy on benefits for homeless people not being enough
So is this the “LA LA LA” you yell while plugging your ears to the actual tests ‘tankies’ apply to politicians usually having to do with imperialism and genocide?
I mean I expected this when I decided to engage with a .ml but still, it’s like you’re reading a completely different comment from the one I wrote.
So against my better judgement I will try to engage you in good faith for a bit longer:
I specified tankies and purity test leftists as different entities for a reason. Tankies do often make good points about western imperialism, the problem (and what makes them tankies) is there blind support for anyone and anything that opposes western imperialism, no matter how bad they are, which is usually support for russian/Chinese imperialism/authoritarian regimes.
Then the purity testers are the ones who will just pointlessly infight about semantics in theory. Like for a real life example, I got purity tested earlier this year for saying I think there’s a difference between systemic racism and an individual act of racism, and anyone can be the victim of an individual act of racism. And apparently that makes me as bad as the KKK.
So in summary I’m happy to talk to you guys about the how bad the effects of western imperialism is and how we to actively fight against it, so long as you don’t claim Russia and China are the good guys, in spite of all the evil shit they do, simply because they are a force that isn’t western.
Tankies do often make good points about western imperialism, the problem (and what makes them tankies) is there blind support for anyone and anything that opposes western imperialism, no matter how bad they are, which is usually support for russian/Chinese imperialism/authoritarian regimes.
This is incorrect, though. Marxists do not have blind support for China, Russia, etc, we disagree with the mainstream western appraisals of these countries. Further, support for Russia is strategic, support for China is because they are an actual socialist country.
If you say we make good points on western imperialism, then you should know that we take a scientific approach to analyzing imperialism, and that this is why our analysis is sound. We don’t have a vibes-based approach to imperialism, which is why we don’t agree to your accusations of, say, Chinese imperialism.
I think it would be a great idea for you to actually give what we say a listen, rather than selectively agreeing with us on what you already believe.
What I’ve learned is that Reddit.world allows for rule breaking as long as you’re punching left, but if you’re the one being beat on and you defend yourself you’ll be banned for wrongthink.
I saw a comment the other day saying that an .ml called them a nazi and then that same .ml replied with a picture of the comment they had made dehumanising Russians.
Both comments got removed.
Meanwhile, Rule #2 for this community seemingly doesn’t exist.
Im pretty sure its the exact opposite.
I had the exact opposite experience in .ml for slightly criticizing communism and got site-banned by an admin right after the lynching. I’ve been criticizing the right in .world for two and a half years without a problem. Not a single comment taken down or a single ban for it. I don’t know where .mls who criticize .world get that from, but judging by the awful and overwhelmingly terrible attitudes I see from .mls I can see why they’re often complaining.
You haven’t had a problem because your politics align with .world - it’s a good match. You’re allowed criticism within a set of safe boundaries that do not challenge power. If you start talking about not voting for Democrats, though, they get a lot more hostile.
Not really? My politics align with the ones in my country. Our right wingers are essentially Democrats, and I didn’t vote for those. I also support criticism of the Democrats for being spineless and complicit, for example.
What I’ve noticed, though, is that the “challenging of power” as it often manifests is misrepresenting things like their role of Democrats in the Palestinian genocide. They’re usually in the form of uncompromising shrieks, calling everyone in the vicinity a Nazi.
Cope
Why did you even leave Reddit?
Mostly to get away from the liberals, rightists, bots, trolls and capitalists losers.
So while the tankies and the terminally online purity test leftists are shitty, it’s at least not as bad as all the bullshit on Reddit and they are a small minority.
Same.
Now, explain why a “tankie” isn’t merely a leftist that failed one of your purity test.
I mean, you can view it that way if you like, but I feel like if you’re being an actually reasonable person, you can acknowledge there is a big difference between a purity test that about some politicians policy on benefits for homeless people not being enough, and a purity test of not assassinating political opponents or just straight up being an authoritarian.
So, what’s the non-authoritarian alternative that you support? Because Democrats, Labour, etc are all pro-surveillance, pro-incarceration, pro-war, and pro-genocide. But when I point this out I’m doing purity tests! Isn’t that funny? I think it’s funny. Not like ha-ha funny, but like, there’s an absurdity to the fact that my criticisms are purity testing but yours are “reasonable.”
So is this the “LA LA LA” you yell while plugging your ears to the actual tests ‘tankies’ apply to politicians usually having to do with imperialism and genocide?
I mean I expected this when I decided to engage with a .ml but still, it’s like you’re reading a completely different comment from the one I wrote.
So against my better judgement I will try to engage you in good faith for a bit longer:
I specified tankies and purity test leftists as different entities for a reason. Tankies do often make good points about western imperialism, the problem (and what makes them tankies) is there blind support for anyone and anything that opposes western imperialism, no matter how bad they are, which is usually support for russian/Chinese imperialism/authoritarian regimes.
Then the purity testers are the ones who will just pointlessly infight about semantics in theory. Like for a real life example, I got purity tested earlier this year for saying I think there’s a difference between systemic racism and an individual act of racism, and anyone can be the victim of an individual act of racism. And apparently that makes me as bad as the KKK.
So in summary I’m happy to talk to you guys about the how bad the effects of western imperialism is and how we to actively fight against it, so long as you don’t claim Russia and China are the good guys, in spite of all the evil shit they do, simply because they are a force that isn’t western.
This is incorrect, though. Marxists do not have blind support for China, Russia, etc, we disagree with the mainstream western appraisals of these countries. Further, support for Russia is strategic, support for China is because they are an actual socialist country.
If you say we make good points on western imperialism, then you should know that we take a scientific approach to analyzing imperialism, and that this is why our analysis is sound. We don’t have a vibes-based approach to imperialism, which is why we don’t agree to your accusations of, say, Chinese imperialism.
I think it would be a great idea for you to actually give what we say a listen, rather than selectively agreeing with us on what you already believe.