• theolodis@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    5 days ago

    Wanna guess how many plants are wasted to feed animals, only for humans to eat them?

      • Gladaed@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        4 days ago

        Not all animals are the same. Killing an endangered dolphin weighs much different to eating a mussel.

        • theolodis@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          4 days ago

          So you’d recommend only eating animals until they are endangered and then eating other animals until they are no longer? Is that what you want to express?

          Or are you arguing that some animals are more sentient than others (e.g. mammals vs mussels), and we should switch to eating snails and mussels only, because of that?

          • Gladaed@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            4 days ago

            Just saying their figure is completely irrelevant since not all are created equally.

            We should probably substitute meat by eating more mollusks. They are rather eco friendly. And insects, probably.

            A chicken is also much smaller than a cow.

            • theolodis@feddit.org
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 days ago

              A chicken is also much smaller than a cow.

              Your penis is also much smaller than a cow, or a chicken. Should we all start eating your dick? Seems like size does matter indeed.

              • Gladaed@feddit.org
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                3 days ago

                I didn’t say which one is better choice. Killing cows may be preferential as fewer beings have to exist and extinction is preferable. Or you use another metric. I don’t care. Just be consistent and sensible in your arguments.

        • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          4 days ago

          Well you should probably stop eating fish then, because trawling absolutely does kill dolphins. Its called by-catch.

    • big_slap@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      5 days ago
      • Plants don’t want to be eaten.
      • Plants don’t want to be eaten.
      • Plants don’t want to be eaten.
      • Plants don’t want to be eaten.
      • Plants don’t want to be eaten.
      • Plants don’t want to be eaten.
      • Plants don’t want to be eaten.
      • theolodis@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        4 days ago

        To be completely fair, some plants actually produce fruits with the intent of them being eaten, because that’s their way of Zoochorie/Hemerochorie

    • Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 days ago

      Plants that humans wouldnt be able to digest efficiently anyway, unlesss you are talking about the more bourgeois meats

        • x4740N@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 days ago

          You do realise it’s waste product not suitable for human consumption

          For example waste spy product from the production of your soy milk which also uses a ton of water and drives deforestation

          The farms also kill farm pests with use of farming machines, pesticides and shotguns

        • hans@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          4 days ago

          people don’t want to eat field corn, but the soy that is given to livestock is mostly the waste product from pressing soybeans for oil

          • theolodis@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 days ago

            According to the Soy bean producers of North Carolina, the soymeal is a by product of the soy oil production, where a small portion is used for Tofu and Soy milk and the majority becomes animal feed: https://ncsoy.org/media-resources/uses-of-soybeans/

            So all of the soy protein given to animals would indeed be digestible by humans.

            Concerning the corn, we could just plant sweet corn instead, or any other plant really. Or what would prevent us from doing that?

    • x4740N@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 days ago

      Wanna know how many of those plants are waste product only and plants only suitable for animal consumption

      Do you see a human eating hay

      Cut the greenwashing crap

      • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 days ago

        Is hay the only thing that can grow on that land? Could we grow food humans like instead?

        You do need to think things through a bit more than that.

    • hans@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      4 days ago

      none. not really. if we are using it, it’s not wasted, and much of what we feed livestock is plants or parts of plants that people can’t or won’t eat

      • theolodis@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        According to the Soy bean producers of North Carolina, the soymeal is a by product of the soy oil production, where a small portion is used for Tofu and Soy milk and the majority becomes animal feed: https://ncsoy.org/media-resources/uses-of-soybeans/

        So all of the soy protein given to animals would indeed be digestible by humans.

        Now it might be true that a lot of people don’t want to eat Tofu Tempe and Soy milk, but we could as well plant any other vegetable instead of Soy beans, and who could resist some delicious Brussel sprouts for example???

          • theolodis@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 days ago

            Well, in that case we could just mix the soy protein in other foods, I guess.

            But I’d also suspect that we wouldn’t need the quantities of soy oil, and we just use that because of the synergy with the livestock food.

            • hans@feddit.org
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 days ago

              we already feed people soy. but we make a lot more than people want to eat. feeding it to livestock is a conservation of resources

              • theolodis@feddit.org
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                3 days ago

                How is converting it to animal protein with a factor of at best 10:1 conservation of resources? Conservation of resources would be to produce less, and also produce less livestock.