He quietly urged other military personnel to reflect on their own positions. “They should be confident in questioning possibly immoral or illegal orders,” he said, “remembering they are responsible for their own actions, and knowing others are asking the same questions.”

“If they have doubts about their orders, they are not alone,”

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    Or: the moment he had to consider doing something that was against The People, he honorably left.

    I very much argue that moment happened back in 2021 when the military chose to do absolutely nothing while an outgoing government official tried to violently overthrow the government, but sure.

    He left. Good on him. That is why I said, elsewhere, that there was one less body to support the nazis.

    Absolute bare minimum? More of the military should be doing this. But that is the thing, it is the “bare minimum”

    My issue is you, and many others, trying to justify serving a rapist because they are legally required to follow orders. We’ve been through this: if your justification for an atrocity is “I was just following orders” then you are a monster. And if your justification for other people oppressing you is “they are just following orders” you are a boot licker waiting for the leopards to eat your face.

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      My issue is you, and many others, trying to justify serving a rapist because they are legally required to follow orders. We’ve been through this: if your justification for an atrocity is “I was just following orders” then you are a monster.

      No, I’m trying to justify him NOT serving a rapist. You seemed to be angry that he chose to stop serving a rapist. Now you are saying I’m a boot licker because I am happy he is no longer serving a rapist and isn’t doing stuff that is oppressing people??? He is no longer “just following orders,” so why are you angry? Your anger is kind of all over the place.

      You also never answered my request for what concrete steps do you want him to do other than retire. You are one of those people who get all angry and complain but then don’t have any recommended solutions.

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        I am angry because he served a rapist up until two weeks ago. I am angry because people are so obsessed with worshiping the military even as the military is increasingly the backup dancers to ICE.

        Again, this is the absolute bare minimum. It should be treated as such.

        As for your ad hominem

        You also never answered my request for what concrete steps do you want him to do other than retire. You are one of those people who get all angry and complain but then don’t have any recommended solutions.

        Believe it or not but some things you don’t discuss on a publicly readable message board. Weird, I know.


        Also it is increasingly obvious he is going the “I’m going to pretend I care and write a book about it” route but…

        You also never answered my request for what concrete steps do you want him to do other than retire. You are one of those people who get all angry and complain but then don’t have any recommended solutions.