OQB @fajre@lemmy.world

I’ve been thinking about transparency and security in the public sector. Do you think all government software and platforms should be open source?

Some countries have already made progress in this area:

  • Estonia: digital government services with open and auditable APIs.
  • United Kingdom: several open source government projects and systems published on GitHub.
  • France and Canada: policies encouraging the use of free and open source software in public agencies.

Possible benefits:

  • Full transparency: anyone can audit the code, ensuring there is no corruption, hidden flaws, or unauthorized data collection.
  • Enhanced security: public reviews help identify vulnerabilities quickly.
  • Cost reduction: less dependency on private vendors and lower spending on proprietary licenses.
  • Flexibility and innovation: public agencies can adapt systems to their needs without relying on external solutions.

Possible challenges:

  • Maintenance and updating of complex systems.
  • Protecting sensitive data without compromising citizen privacy.
  • Political or bureaucratic resistance to opening the code.

Do you think this could be viable in the governments of your countries? How could we start making this a reality globally?

  • tal@olio.cafe
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    23 hours ago

    What do you think: should all government software be open source?

    No. I think that there are some things that should very much not be open source or even have binaries distributed, stuff like things like software used for some military purposes. You wouldn’t want to distribute it with abandon to the world any more than you would the weapons it drives or is used to create.

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      22 hours ago

      Open source only requires source distribution with binary distribution, so the software can be open source and still not publicly distributed. It just means if its ever declassified, the source will be required to be distributed along with the software itself.

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        20 hours ago

        If the source isn’t publicly available, it’s not open source. It sounds like you’re suggesting that the software remain closed source until some later date where it then becomes open source.

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          14 hours ago

          That is simply not true. Go read a few open source licenses and see for yourself. They only require that the source code be distributed with copies of the software itself. The code is not required to be made available to the general public.

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            6 hours ago

            A few references:

            Generally, open source refers to a computer program in which the source code is available to the general public for usage, modification from its original design, and publication of their version (fork) back to the community.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source

            The program must include source code, and must allow distribution in source code as well as compiled form. Where some form of a product is not distributed with source code, there must be a well-publicized means of obtaining the source code for no more than a reasonable reproduction cost, preferably downloading via the Internet without charge.

            https://opensource.org/osd

            The term open source refers to something people can modify and share because its design is publicly accessible.

            https://opensource.com/resources/what-open-source

            having the source code freely available for possible modification and redistribution

            https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/open-source

            I haven’t read any open source licenses, so it’s possible you are correct in some technical sense, but that is not what people mean when they use the term open source.

            Clearly the OP was using the common definition, or most of the post wouldn’t make any sense.

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              2 hours ago

              The only one of your sources that directly contradicts what I am claiming is the Wikipedia line about the source being publicly available. But that is inaccurate. All the major open source licenses require source code be available to anyone who has access to the executable form of the software - not the public in general. So, if some FOSS software is available to download on the Internet without any restriction on its access, then so must the source code. Most FOSS software is distributed this way.

              However, if you write software under an open source license, you are not required to share that software with anyone. The license requires you to distribute the source ALONG WITH the software. But it doesn’t require you to make the software freely available to everyone, or anyone.

              Tying back to my original point, which has been derailed by myriad people who refuse to read before thinking they know things, I was saying that we don’t need exceptions for military software because it can be licensed as open source without that code being handed over to our enemies. But requiring it to be open source would, for example, preclude the DoD from building kill switches into the F-35s that they sell to our allies, because they’d be required to share the design of the plane’s control systems along with the product - again, only to the people who receive a copy of the product - not to the public at large.

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          14 hours ago

          You don’t get to redefine open source. It’s always been about giving the source code to whoever you give the software.

          Making it publicly available is an acceptable alternative to fulfill that obligation.

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      22 hours ago

      I’d say that kind of thing should fall under a label of being “Classified”. If it’s something like a recruitment page for the Army that shouldn’t need any kind of classification.